Anonymous wrote:It speaks volumes that Blake and Ryan still have to close their comments and Justin does not. He’s gotten flooded with celebratory messages since the ruling.

Also speaks volumes that Blake cannot shut up about this case and has posted 20 unhinged stories since the judge’s ruling and Justin has said nothing.

And again no celeb friends saying anything in support of Blake.

Yes, it speaks to the fact that Baldoni supporters are insane and will dedicate their lives to harassing people they don't know in their Instagram comments, and Blake's supporters don't feel comfortable harassing even people they dislike.

WME came out with a very strong statement of support for Blake.

It speaks volumes that Blake and Ryan still have to close their comments and Justin does not. He’s gotten flooded with celebratory messages since the ruling.

Also speaks volumes that Blake cannot shut up about this case and has posted 20 unhinged stories since the judge’s ruling and Justin has said nothing.

And again no celeb friends saying anything in support of Blake.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

You’ve rattled off again about the same sexual harassment points that may have been relevant prior to this week, but are no longer relevant, and youve mentioned nothing about retaliation which is one of the three claims that survived. please list all the evidence that we’ve seen that she was retaliated against.

18 months in and they have found not one content creator out of the hundreds that they went after that colluded or worked with or it was paid by Wayfarer. They also have admitted the campaign was untraceable which will be hard for a jury.

We know what Jed Wallace was paid $90,000 for. He laid out his report that he was extensively monitoring all the smearing lively’s team was going over the course of 3 months, including how they messed with Wayfares Wikipedia page- he himself said everything was traceable in his report. Something like don’t act on this, everything is traceable and we can find out who messed with the page.

It’s been almost 2 years and there’s been no evidence of collusion with any of the content creators covering this case. The incredibly damaging baby bump interview was released on a Saturday morning. They had hired Jed Wallace the Friday afternoon before. Do you really think Jed, who is a total computer nerd and sits in his basement all day, had time after signing the contract on Friday afternoon to think, I know! I will tap some international fashion journalists and see if there’s any bad interviews with Blake they want to resurface? That was obviously released organically as the journalist has admitted.

Further, there’s tons of emails from Sony execs saying she did this to herself.

When Taylor Swift was being messed with after the release of her album that people were trying to say she was a Nazi, it took people about a week or two to trace that it was a coordinated bot campaign. what is taking so long in this case?

Anonymous wrote:I see Blake’s lawyers have lost control of her once again. Her statement is literal insanity.

- signed with a dragon

The statement also was not from her lawyers letterhead, which I thought was funny. I’m sure they rolled her eyes and let her put that out, but they were not going be formally associated with this nonsense.

I imagine given their credibility that they are trying to convince her to settle, but she’s just so unhinged that they’re just collecting the checks at this point.

If this goes to trial, Justin doesn’t even have to attend outside of the days he’s testifying. And honestly he shouldn’t. Time to reset the narrative that it’s not Blake vs Justin, it’s Blake vs iewum.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

Reminder — she was wearing a hospital gown, pregnancy belly and underwear.

I see Blake’s lawyers have lost control of her once again. Her statement is literal insanity.

- signed with a dragon

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

You seem completely out of touch with how Blake presents herself. A jury is going to hate her.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

Agree with this, but I'm not sure how much it matters. Seems clear they retaliated against her and that's the meat of the case.

WaPo headline: Blake Lively's sexual harassment claims against Justin Baldoni tossed out but robust case remains

Ah, WaPo is about to go on the blacklist! Need to stick with reliable sources like Page 6 and Daily Mail.

Lol msm has been so off on this case. She should try to settle. A loss at trial would be the absolute nail in the coffin of embarrassment for her. A jury confirming what we all already knew—that people just don’t like her. No smear needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

Agree with this, but I'm not sure how much it matters. Seems clear they retaliated against her and that's the meat of the case.

WaPo headline: Blake Lively's sexual harassment claims against Justin Baldoni tossed out but robust case remains

Ah, WaPo is about to go on the blacklist! Need to stick with reliable sources like Page 6 and Daily Mail.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

Agree with this, but I'm not sure how much it matters. Seems clear they retaliated against her and that's the meat of the case.

WaPo headline: Blake Lively's sexual harassment claims against Justin Baldoni tossed out but robust case remains

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

But, again, she doesn't have to prove that the remaining allegations constituted sexual harassment. Only that it was reasonable for her to believe they did. I know within the echo chamber of pro-Baldoni Reddit, it's very hard to understand this. But the jurors will not be people who sit around watching Kjersti Flaa videos or speculating on whether Ryan Reynolds is secretly gay all day long. They'll just be regular people with lives.

Regular people with lives could be persuaded that a woman felt that being called sexy by her director, having a producer walk in on her nude after she requested he please not, having the director make a joke about her not watching porn, and being told that she needed to appear nude in a birth scene because "it's not normal" for women to wear hospital gowns during childbirth, added up to sexual harassment.

Keep in mind that some members of the jury will likely be women who have given birth wearing hospital gowns, and people who are horrified at the idea that someone they work with might insist on coming into a room where they were nude. Again, in pro-Baldoni bubble land, these are all normal things that anyone should accept, but in reality a lot of people will find that upsetting and will think "yeah, I can see why she thought she'd been harassed." And that's all she needs for this part of her case.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

He hasn't been "cleared" of those claims. Lively is just prevented from bringing them because she is determined to have been an independent contractor, not an employee. She will be required to detail the alleged harassment in order to prove that she had a reasonable belief she had been harassed when she brought her complaint.

If it goes to trial, the jury *will* hear testimony and evident regarding the four incidents the judge has outlined, which are also her four strongest allegations. And he will be disinclined to limit further because he's already handed Wayfarer a win in how narrowly he's cut Lively's case. Why would he then cut it further? If he wanted to throw the whole thing out, he would have. He didn't.

Dp but the court actually did say about half of her sh allegations, as a matter of law, were deficient and could not be used as part of her retaliation case.

Also disagree about the strength of her remaining allegations. He called me sexy and he said I don’t watch porn is going nowhere once her texts and sexy boots video are presented. Further, much of her birthing scene allegations have bern discredited ( what she wearing, who was present, etc) which is going to put her credibility in question. Same with the trailer allegations.

Lyman is a genius…and so is Freedman.

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni's lawyers will file "Motions in Limine" to block Lively from detailing the alleged harassment, arguing it will unfairly poison the jury against him for claims he's already been cleared of. Judges despise "mini-trials" within a trial. The judge will likely allow Lively to testify that she complained about inappropriate behavior, but will cut her off if she tries to present extensive evidence or call multiple witnesses to prove the underlying behavior itself.

Baldoni supporter here and I don’t agree. The opinion makes clear Blake has to establish a “reasonable belief” of a hostile work environment based on a few of her allegations. They can bring in all kinds of evidence to show there can be no such reasonable belief based on her own sexually charged conduct and credibility issues.

Her lawyers may try this but Baldoni’s lawyers will argue it’s unduly prejudicial and Liman will likely agree and limit her to a summary of why she complained. It’s also a double edged sword for Lively’s team b/c if they open the door Baldoni’s team gets to indict her account and motivations.

I don't think you understand what "prejudice" means in court. You don't just get to keep out any evidence that makes your client look bad. You can keep out evidence that is highly inflammatory, might confuse the jury, or that is intended to show propensity ("this shows the defendant is the sort of person who would do what is alleged"). And the prejudicial impact of evidence is weighted against its relevance ("probative value"). But basic evidence showing, for instance, that Heath entered the makeup trailer after repeated requests not to and that he looked directly at Lively in an undressed state after agreeing to look away, will not be considered inflammatory or confusing. Heath himself admits to most of that already. Eyewitness testimony to the events that Lively believes constituted harassment would also be standard, not prejudicial.

Also, the rules about prejudice will also apply to the defense. They will be allowed to impeach Lively and her witnesses, but they will not be allowed to introduce inflammatory or confusing evidence that doesn't really go to the question of fact (whether Lively had a reasonable belief that she had been harassed). That means: no evidence about "stealing" the movie, no evidence about whether she delayed production or ran up costume costs. No evidence about the state of her friendship with Taylor Swift, about the Van Zan subpoena, etc. Most of Baldoni supporters fixate on will not be permitted to be mentioned in court and certainly won't be allowed as part of Wayfarer's defense.

You really this goes to court after all this? Liman is practically begging them to settle with this narrowed scope and it’s likely they will. Signing something where neither can run to the press snd say what went down but that everyone is relieved they can put this behind them and blah blah blah.

Lively doesn’t want another 6 weeks of content creators hashing this out plus a trial. This has veered into nightmare territory for her and it is time to let go and move on.