Anonymous
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Anonymous
05/22/2022 12:16
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Really? Politically, the group of people who support the right to have an abortion also support universal healthcare, support for families with young children, high levels of support for programs like WIC, etc. The group that supports preventing women from seeking life-saving medical-care also supports dismantling programs that provide universal healthcare, support to families with young children, etc. If you don't want to be painted with the "I DGAF about actual babies who are born" brush, stop supporting people that DGAF about babies who are born.
+1 Giving birth in America is much more dangerous than in peer nations.
+2
That it’s largely among Black women doesn’t absolve the forced birthers from their support for the policies that keep Black women dying.
That it's largely Black women is a complete red herring and frankly offensive to even mention. Last I checked, Black Americans are still Americans. Or has the SCOTUS also overturned Dred Scott while I wasn't paying attention?
I agree. But the forced birthers’ big claim is that they’re soooo pRo LiFe and they are not. I enjoy needling their hypocrisy. They just have a desire to control women and a fetus fetish.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 12:15
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Really? Politically, the group of people who support the right to have an abortion also support universal healthcare, support for families with young children, high levels of support for programs like WIC, etc. The group that supports preventing women from seeking life-saving medical-care also supports dismantling programs that provide universal healthcare, support to families with young children, etc. If you don't want to be painted with the "I DGAF about actual babies who are born" brush, stop supporting people that DGAF about babies who are born.
+1 Giving birth in America is much more dangerous than in peer nations.
+2
That it’s largely among Black women doesn’t absolve the forced birthers from their support for the policies that keep Black women dying.
That it's largely Black women is a complete red herring and frankly offensive to even mention. Last I checked, Black Americans are still Americans. Or has the SCOTUS also overturned Dred Scott while I wasn't paying attention?
Anonymous
05/22/2022 12:02
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Really? Politically, the group of people who support the right to have an abortion also support universal healthcare, support for families with young children, high levels of support for programs like WIC, etc. The group that supports preventing women from seeking life-saving medical-care also supports dismantling programs that provide universal healthcare, support to families with young children, etc. If you don't want to be painted with the "I DGAF about actual babies who are born" brush, stop supporting people that DGAF about babies who are born.
+1 Giving birth in America is much more dangerous than in peer nations.
+2
That it’s largely among Black women doesn’t absolve the forced birthers from their support for the policies that keep Black women dying.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 11:15
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Really? Politically, the group of people who support the right to have an abortion also support universal healthcare, support for families with young children, high levels of support for programs like WIC, etc. The group that supports preventing women from seeking life-saving medical-care also supports dismantling programs that provide universal healthcare, support to families with young children, etc. If you don't want to be painted with the "I DGAF about actual babies who are born" brush, stop supporting people that DGAF about babies who are born.
+1 Giving birth in America is much more dangerous than in peer nations.
Well, according to the Governor of Louisiana this is NBD because if you only consider white women, it's not so bad
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates/amp
(And people are trying to defend this because he at least acknowledges that we shouldn't minimize the problem of higher death rates for Black women. These people are monsters and calling themselves the voice of morality.)
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:34
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Really? Politically, the group of people who support the right to have an abortion also support universal healthcare, support for families with young children, high levels of support for programs like WIC, etc. The group that supports preventing women from seeking life-saving medical-care also supports dismantling programs that provide universal healthcare, support to families with young children, etc. If you don't want to be painted with the "I DGAF about actual babies who are born" brush, stop supporting people that DGAF about babies who are born.
+1 Giving birth in America is much more dangerous than in peer nations.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:31
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Actually completely different. An embryo is not a baby.
Fine. Abortionists like you can say you're pregnant with an embryo. Women i know say they're pregnant with a baby.
I am pro-choice and my BIL was pro-life. We both call our pregnancies “the baby”. One day, in SIL’s third trimester, BIL & SIL found out that the baby was developing without any brain. There was no hope that the baby would ever do more than live in a vegetative state for an undetermined amount of time - days, weeks, months, maybe a couple of years at best. The baby would require around the clock care-giving. BIL and SIL chose to have an abortion.
People who have abortions sometimes are aborting babies - they are often wanted pregnancies until something goes catastrophically wrong. BIL and SIL made the best possible choice for them and their future family, which includes 3 more babies that they had after their abortion. Babies that they never would have had but for abortion.
Abortion is pro-life, but it includes not only thinking about whether the baby lives or dies, but also what kind of quality of life the baby and family would have.
PP here. I'm very much in agreement that many abortions are needed and appropriate. I'm not opposed and think a woman and her doctor and the father of the baby (if involved) should decide. I'm opposed to abortions on demand
Can you explain the difference in your mind between “deciding” and “demanding”?
Crickets
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:26
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any female who casts a vote for Republicans moving forward is brain dead
+1. I have zero respect for women who vote Republican.
I have zero respect for anyone who votes Republican.
I have zero respect for people who make sweeping generalizations.
Sweeping generalizations like all abortions for any reason need to be illegal?
.sweeping generalizations like all abortions for any reason should be legal.
That’s not the current standard under Casey and Roe.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 09:06
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Pregnancy begins with a penis. Regulate sperm.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 01:17
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care
Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.
I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.
You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?
Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.
I don't think anyone should be "encouraging" women to have abortions. This is a decision for the woman to decide. And I support women who decide they don't want to go through with their pregnancies, because I respect women.
No one is fooled by your fake concern for black and brown babies.
Anonymous
05/21/2022 23:55
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care
Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.
I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.
You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?
Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.
Your lack of concern for living, breathing WOMEN is disturbing.
You don’t get to force your religious extremist beliefs on anyone else.
Their beliefs are not "religious," they are anti-woman. They are the product of men controlling women. The are entirely political. Cynical politicians have used the abortion issue to hyper-emotionalize both men and women about abortion, when the end game is controlling women, keeping them in their place, always subservient to men. Don't get distracted by this "baby" crap. Abortion is not about babies, it's about control, pure and simple. Women must not be allowed to control their own reproduction. Men must always be in control of women.
Anonymous
05/21/2022 23:28
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care
Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.
I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.
You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?
Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.
False equivalence. No one is encouraging women to have abortions. All we want is for abortion to be an option for any woman who feels it is the best choice for her.
Anonymous
05/21/2022 22:47
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care
Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.
I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.
You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?
Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.
Your lack of concern for living, breathing WOMEN is disturbing.
You don’t get to force your religious extremist beliefs on anyone else.
Anonymous
05/21/2022 22:20
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care
Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?
DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.
I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.
You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?
Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.
Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.