Anonymous
04/02/2024 11:45
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is a trapped player?
Basically a trap player is born in the same birth year as the kids that are a grade older on a team (think Oct.-Dec. birthdays since cutoff for school, at least in VA, is Sept. 30). So those players are "trapped" and get to repeat their U19 season twice - once as a Junior playing with mostly seniors in HS, then as actual seniors playing with majority Juniors. I have two trap players in club soccer. and really wish they had never moved to the birth year rule and just stuck with grade levels.
Can one play U19 season twice? I guess the leagues don’t care about age at that point?
Age is why they can play twice. It's U19, not U18.
Anonymous
04/02/2024 11:44
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
its not that they don't think the coaches are good enough, it's that the MYS reps on FVU are getting run over by the reps from VYS and BRYC.
MYS needs new management, they got walked all over by SYC and now walked all over by VYS and BRYC. Pattern is clear.
MYS needs new management, they got walked all over by SYC and now walked all over by VYS and BRYC. Pattern is clear.
Anonymous
04/02/2024 11:09
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Not only about communication but it was clear in their message by the fact that most teams are being led by non-MYS coaches. They feel their coaches are not good enough.
Anonymous
04/02/2024 11:02
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Hearing that MYS is having trouble keeping travel coaches due to general bad feelings/lack of communication from the merger. Interesting to see what will happen...wonder if VYS and BRYC have the same issues?
Anonymous
04/01/2024 23:21
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is a trapped player?
Basically a trap player is born in the same birth year as the kids that are a grade older on a team (think Oct.-Dec. birthdays since cutoff for school, at least in VA, is Sept. 30). So those players are "trapped" and get to repeat their U19 season twice - once as a Junior playing with mostly seniors in HS, then as actual seniors playing with majority Juniors. I have two trap players in club soccer. and really wish they had never moved to the birth year rule and just stuck with grade levels.
Can one play U19 season twice? I guess the leagues don’t care about age at that point?
Anonymous
04/01/2024 16:31
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:What is a trapped player?
Basically a trap player is born in the same birth year as the kids that are a grade older on a team (think Oct.-Dec. birthdays since cutoff for school, at least in VA, is Sept. 30). So those players are "trapped" and get to repeat their U19 season twice - once as a Junior playing with mostly seniors in HS, then as actual seniors playing with majority Juniors. I have two trap players in club soccer. and really wish they had never moved to the birth year rule and just stuck with grade levels.
Anonymous
03/31/2024 21:10
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.
This isn’t right.
What group? Boys or girls?
Now that I’m think about it, both.
You have Jaon on the girls side but this was more about 2 of the boys coaches.
Yes, JA is in the organization, but has he ever actually been the head coach of one of their teams?
Maybe, maybe not. But he has always actually acted like an a**hole to kids and families. Whether he was head coach of his kids team or assistant.
Anonymous
03/31/2024 20:59
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.
This isn’t right.
What group? Boys or girls?
Now that I’m think about it, both.
You have Jaon on the girls side but this was more about 2 of the boys coaches.
Yes, JA is in the organization, but has he ever actually been the head coach of one of their teams?
Anonymous
03/31/2024 20:31
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
I thought trapped player refers to 8th graders who are on a U15 team where everyone else is in 9th grade, so they miss out on part of their season due to the 9th graders playing HS soccer.
In this context, though, it seems to be referring to the players who are U19, but still in HS. So, for example, a 2006 who will be a senior for that season. Their team would be 2006/2007.
In this context, though, it seems to be referring to the players who are U19, but still in HS. So, for example, a 2006 who will be a senior for that season. Their team would be 2006/2007.
Anonymous
03/31/2024 19:59
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
What is a trapped player?
Anonymous
03/31/2024 18:27
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?
Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith
The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.
Explain how a coach whose experience consists primarily of coaching SYA White and has a D license is on par with his peers, much less Jim Boeheim, and you might have a reasonable argument.
OP was also talking about roster selection more than coaching. This is an issue with lots of BRAVE teams but could especially be an issue with a parent coach.
+1. Especially when there are “trapped” 06s from both BRAVE and Union who spent the past year playing u19, a team full of Union 07s and outside players to consider. Given the state and circumstances of Fairfax Union, they really owe it to the rest of the club and the 3 member clubs to put the highest caliber roster possible in place.
They will just cut the trapped players. It’s what they did last year.
Why would they cut the trapped players- they are older, presumably stronger physically and have 1 more year of ECNL experience having already played U-19 Trapped players could be a year older than the non trapped players…that is not insignificant…
Anonymous
03/31/2024 11:41
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?
Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith
The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.
Explain how a coach whose experience consists primarily of coaching SYA White and has a D license is on par with his peers, much less Jim Boeheim, and you might have a reasonable argument.
OP was also talking about roster selection more than coaching. This is an issue with lots of BRAVE teams but could especially be an issue with a parent coach.
+1. Especially when there are “trapped” 06s from both BRAVE and Union who spent the past year playing u19, a team full of Union 07s and outside players to consider. Given the state and circumstances of Fairfax Union, they really owe it to the rest of the club and the 3 member clubs to put the highest caliber roster possible in place.
They will just cut the trapped players. It’s what they did last year.
Anonymous
03/31/2024 01:48
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
There's no way they will get this right. Shattering many young dreams through their arrogant methods to identify players. Let's chase the ball around and call that soccer.
Anonymous
03/30/2024 18:47
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.
Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.
Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.
They are not/would not.
Unless they were not leaving on their own accord. Perhaps some were cut?
I know Mclean ECNL teams were not doing well, but with the addition of the better Mclean players to BRAVE, one would hope FVU would be better.
Anonymous
03/30/2024 18:44
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.
This isn’t right.
What group? Boys or girls?
Now that I’m think about it, both.
You have Jaon on the girls side but this was more about 2 of the boys coaches.
If you're paying $3k+ for BRAVE you should expect BRAVE selects players according to skill, understanding and physicality. NOT anything else.
Hopefully the same flaws don't carry over to FVU.