Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:29     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:I am having trouble seeing an ending to this conflict other than for Ukraine to agree to maintain neutrality in the future -- that is, to stay outside of NATO.

I admire Zelensky's bravery. But I wonder if, in the end, he will simply have to agree to roughly the same deal he could have obtained prior to the invasion.

It isn't just Putin who doesn't want Ukraine in NATO -- according to William Burns, it is virtually the entire Russian government.


Stuff it, Vlad.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:19     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
I am having trouble seeing an ending to this conflict other than for Ukraine to agree to maintain neutrality in the future -- that is, to stay outside of NATO.

I admire Zelensky's bravery. But I wonder if, in the end, he will simply have to agree to roughly the same deal he could have obtained prior to the invasion.

It isn't just Putin who doesn't want Ukraine in NATO -- according to William Burns, it is virtually the entire Russian government.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:18     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
So now Putin is going begging to Xi for help. Russia will be nothing more than a Chinese puppet when this is done. Putin has lost no matter what, because he will forever be under China’s thumb.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:15     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


She's fine. The opposition always parses words of incumbents, because that's literally their JOB. We did the same for the previous incumbents - there was a LOT more material




She misspoke. Wasn’t she a former prosecutor? She should know better.


Sure, they should all know better, PP. Particularly those who lie ALL THE TIME DURING THEIR FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE, more by far than any other.

Don't throw stones, dear. They're all going to hit you on the back of the head.


And some of those who lied for their 4 years in office still haven’t stopped. It’s hard to take Trumpster outrage seriously.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:10     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


She's fine. The opposition always parses words of incumbents, because that's literally their JOB. We did the same for the previous incumbents - there was a LOT more material




She misspoke. Wasn’t she a former prosecutor? She should know better.


Sure, they should all know better, PP. Particularly those who lie ALL THE TIME DURING THEIR FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE, more by far than any other.

Don't throw stones, dear. They're all going to hit you on the back of the head.

Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 21:01     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More desperate threats from russia
Russia's space program threatens to leave astronaut aboard ISS
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10608023/Video-posted-Russias-space-program-threatens-leave-astronaut-55-aboard-space-station.html


This is like a Mike Myers movies Russias gonna leave him and make the ISS crash into earth - Elon Musk offers to pick him up. I’m not sure my grandkids are gonna believe any of this!



This has been debunked. Don't be so quick to believe something because it supports your views.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 20:42     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:


She's fine. The opposition always parses words of incumbents, because that's literally their JOB. We did the same for the previous incumbents - there was a LOT more material




She misspoke. Wasn’t she a former prosecutor? She should know better.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 19:46     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine



She's fine. The opposition always parses words of incumbents, because that's literally their JOB. We did the same for the previous incumbents - there was a LOT more material


Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 19:14     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is truly an embarrassment.

What she said:




What was transcribed in the official WH transcript:

"So I will say what I know we all say, and I will say over and over again: The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people [and] in defense of the NATO Alliance. (Applause.)"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/03/12/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-at-the-dnc-winter-meeting/


Do you have a comprehension problem or an LD? Her point is quite clear.

Or perhaps your point is a attempt to undermine our VP.

Putin sycophant.


In saner times, I'd have reported you for behaving like an unhinged provocateur. Since when do people not facepalm over politicians saying different than what everyone knows is intended?


When inclusion or exclusion of "and" means the difference between jaw-jaw and war-war, it's best to get it right.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 18:26     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is truly an embarrassment.

What she said:




What was transcribed in the official WH transcript:

"So I will say what I know we all say, and I will say over and over again: The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people [and] in defense of the NATO Alliance. (Applause.)"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/03/12/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-at-the-dnc-winter-meeting/


Do you have a comprehension problem or an LD? Her point is quite clear.

Or perhaps your point is a attempt to undermine our VP.

Putin sycophant.


In saner times, I'd have reported you for behaving like an unhinged provocateur. Since when do people not facepalm over politicians saying different than what everyone knows is intended?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 18:24     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
DP, but one can be honest about the vp’s weaknesses without being a “Putin sycophant”
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 18:19     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:She is truly an embarrassment.

What she said:




What was transcribed in the official WH transcript:

"So I will say what I know we all say, and I will say over and over again: The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people [and] in defense of the NATO Alliance. (Applause.)"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/03/12/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-at-the-dnc-winter-meeting/


Do you have a comprehension problem or an LD? Her point is quite clear.

Or perhaps your point is a attempt to undermine our VP.

Putin sycophant.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 18:12     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:More desperate threats from russia
Russia's space program threatens to leave astronaut aboard ISS
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10608023/Video-posted-Russias-space-program-threatens-leave-astronaut-55-aboard-space-station.html


This is like a Mike Myers movies Russias gonna leave him and make the ISS crash into earth - Elon Musk offers to pick him up. I’m not sure my grandkids are gonna believe any of this!
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 18:08     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is truly an embarrassment.

What she said:




What was transcribed in the official WH transcript:

"So I will say what I know we all say, and I will say over and over again: The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people [and] in defense of the NATO Alliance. (Applause.)"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/03/12/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-at-the-dnc-winter-meeting/

Lol. It’s Kamala. What do you expect?


What’s embarrassing or inaccurate about her statement as a representative of US foreign policy. We are standing up for Ukraine and we, the US, clearly see Ukraine is the front line in a dreadful proxy war between Putin and NATO.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 17:50     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
So Ukraine is in a NATO aliance? Since...when?