Anonymous wrote:Get personal locator beacons before you hike. They cost about $200 but will send signal to satellite that will pinpoint your location within 10 feet.

And listen to Dave Paulides harrowing tales of the missing or those found dead in national parks under bizarre circumstances. You will never hike alone or without personal locator beacon again. I’ve been bingeing on his missing person YouTube channel.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sCYrv7HV0M

I have to insert my 2 cents here and note that David Paulides is a conspiracy theorist and believes in Bigfoot. Perhaps he has factual stuff as well, but the way people become conspiracy theorists….is by listening to other conspiracy theorists. Don’t listen to that crap.

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Anonymous wrote:My brothers was a park ranger at the Grand Canyon for a decade. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who underestimate the hikes and overestimate their abilities.

My DS went on a trip this past summer with some friends after college graduation. One of their group of early 20-somethings got heat stroke on a hike into the Grand Canyon They had to carry her up and she spent the night in the hospital getting rehydrated.

Yeah hiking in Arizona in summer is nuts; they should close the trails.

No they shouldn’t. The federal govt isn’t your Dad. People gotta have some sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Guy from Michigan just tried to retrace their route and he was literally going to die too! Had a random stranger not called 911 after randomly seeing him enter the trail the day prior, he most certainly would have died.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/07/michigan-man-rescued-california-trail-where-family-died/10010462002/

Darwin.

Seriously. Dude set out to prove this family’s death was some cover-up conspiracy, then wastes everyone’s time having to come rescue his dumb ass. And then drove himself home against medical advice.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

My god. The stepfather must have passed out while driving to get them help.

Who goes hiking in anything near 119 degrees?

I have never been to Big Bend but grew up in AZ and it I also can't imagine going hiking in the summer, especially on these desert trails without shade. I wonder if the trail heads have (or they will start) putting warnings on them that you should not hike the trail if the temp is over a certain temperature.

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Anonymous wrote:What a horrible way to die. This is heart wrenching.

+100. The final texts make it painfully clear the family was fully aware of what was happening to them, and I cannot imagine a more terrible way to go. I guess I was hoping for their sake that delirium had set in before they were able to appreciate what dire straights they had put themselves, their child, and their beloved pet in. RIP.

So sad. Good job by the investigators

I agree, and I am glad that they have at least confirmed what happened to the family. It was painful to read all of the theories about foul play that were going around on this thread.

It's creepy that these monsters are our neighbors. Unhinged people who see a tragedy and call the victims murderers, inciting hatred between genders, spewing pseudoscience like Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

My god. The stepfather must have passed out while driving to get them help.

Who goes hiking in anything near 119 degrees?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d think that if it were gas, there would be several other dead animals in the area.

Heat I feel would kill everyone at different times, since people have different tolerances.

I googled algal blooms and sounds like they are pretty obvious (water changes colors and looks scummy), and no human deaths have ever been attributed to them. So that seems unlikely.

They were also only gone for a day. A friend went out looking for them within 24 hours and found that. That's not enough for heat stroke for all four bodies (especially the dog).

He stroke kills in a matter of hours. It's more than enough time.

Anonymous wrote:There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

So many questions (can’t open the link). How old were the stepsons, did they want to go, did their mother warn them, would the man still take them there if they were bio sons, etc etc

Anonymous wrote:There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

We got heat exhaustion in Big Bend on a much less strenuous hike and the high temp was in the early '90's. We had plenty of water but there was no shade on part of the route.

Anonymous wrote:There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

My god. The stepfather must have passed out while driving to get them help.

Anonymous wrote:Guy from Michigan just tried to retrace their route and he was literally going to die too! Had a random stranger not called 911 after randomly seeing him enter the trail the day prior, he most certainly would have died.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/07/michigan-man-rescued-california-trail-where-family-died/10010462002/

Darwin.

There was a recent heat related death of a family who went hiking at Big Bend in 119 degree heat. The father and younger stepson both died, only the older stepson survived. A horrifying tragic vacation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2023/06/26/big-bend-texas-heat-deaths/

Today’s episode of the slate podcast “What Next” interviews a guy who wrote a book “The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet,” and he starts off talking about this California family. Brought me back to this thread which I followed with great interest last year!

Anonymous wrote:Guy from Michigan just tried to retrace their route and he was literally going to die too! Had a random stranger not called 911 after randomly seeing him enter the trail the day prior, he most certainly would have died.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/07/michigan-man-rescued-california-trail-where-family-died/10010462002/

Wow. That's crazy.

Anonymous wrote:My brothers was a park ranger at the Grand Canyon for a decade. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who underestimate the hikes and overestimate their abilities.

You’re not kidding. This was me!

We were out of shape tourists who decided to just hike a quick switchback trail in the Smokies. We left our water in the car, it wasn’t going to be long. Brought no snacks. No jacket for the summit. Whatever.

At the summit we came across an injured person. We managed to get a call phone call out, but waited with the man until help arrived — three hours and one horrendous downpour later. Five hours later we made it back to our car soaked, starving and so thirsty it wasn’t funny.

It was just a quick hike!