Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 14:44     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it crazy to say that whoever wins tomorrows class 6 semifinal between Robo and Cosby, will probably win the whole thing?


Yes, since West Potomac just beat Robinson and Robinson is averaging four goals a game over its last two.



Averaging….over their last two… yeah that’s how averages work. Take two games and throw out the rest


Yes, that is how averages work. Take the sum of the values of a data set divided by the number. They played two good teams recently and scored five and three goals. That adds up to eight divided by two and averages out to four. Against good defenses they do not score a lot of goals. 7 against Cosby, 4 against Broadneck. Why would I care how many they scored against a terrible defense like Woodson or West Springfield?


Ok, smart guy, average the scores of their three games against West Po this season if you want to pick and choose games to average


No thanks. I wanted to look at their most recent games and that is what I did. Sorry if you don't like it.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 14:41     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

I think it’ll be 5-3 Cosby.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 14:32     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:VHSL lacrosse is certainly ugly. You work with what you have, and most kids haven't gotten into the sport at a young age so the "talent pool" is very small. The ones who have played since elementary school shine.

One of the problems I have identified, and has been discussed throughout the years is the holding hostage of the game and its growth by father and parental coaching. It is pretty obvious that these parents who get involved in youth league lacrosse, take over entire organizations and manipulate things for them and their boys. They inevitably then leave the organization upside down and destroyed for those that come behind them because they have intimated other parents and volunteers. They are not dedicated to the sport and their response to any objection is "you want to do it better , then you do it" and they masquerade as if they are giving the greatest sacrifice in the world. The sport in our area has been decimated by these ego maniacs and most of the time their kids are just not the best but they get all the playing time and are put in the best positions for success. The kids know it and are embarrassed. It's a shame.

Then end of day we wonder why the other kids and families get disheartened and leave the sport all together to play baseball and soccer.
NVYLL is a train wreck currently. NoVA needs to do better. Will never be LI or Baltimore because just not enough folks care to change things.


Sincerely interested in this as have some (hopefully up-and-coming lacrosse playing) young kids. What are the issues with NVYLL? which orgs do it well vs. not do it well (we may have choice in which org we decided to start with)? I grew up in MD so unfamiliar with the NOVA lacrosse scene. Thanks in advance for sharing the experiences.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 14:04     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

VHSL lacrosse is certainly ugly. You work with what you have, and most kids haven't gotten into the sport at a young age so the "talent pool" is very small. The ones who have played since elementary school shine.

One of the problems I have identified, and has been discussed throughout the years is the holding hostage of the game and its growth by father and parental coaching. It is pretty obvious that these parents who get involved in youth league lacrosse, take over entire organizations and manipulate things for them and their boys. They inevitably then leave the organization upside down and destroyed for those that come behind them because they have intimated other parents and volunteers. They are not dedicated to the sport and their response to any objection is "you want to do it better , then you do it" and they masquerade as if they are giving the greatest sacrifice in the world. The sport in our area has been decimated by these ego maniacs and most of the time their kids are just not the best but they get all the playing time and are put in the best positions for success. The kids know it and are embarrassed. It's a shame.

Then end of day we wonder why the other kids and families get disheartened and leave the sport all together to play baseball and soccer.
NVYLL is a train wreck currently. NoVA needs to do better. Will never be LI or Baltimore because just not enough folks care to change things.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 13:36     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it crazy to say that whoever wins tomorrows class 6 semifinal between Robo and Cosby, will probably win the whole thing?


Yes, since West Potomac just beat Robinson and Robinson is averaging four goals a game over its last two.



Averaging….over their last two… yeah that’s how averages work. Take two games and throw out the rest


Yes, that is how averages work. Take the sum of the values of a data set divided by the number. They played two good teams recently and scored five and three goals. That adds up to eight divided by two and averages out to four. Against good defenses they do not score a lot of goals. 7 against Cosby, 4 against Broadneck. Why would I care how many they scored against a terrible defense like Woodson or West Springfield?


Ok, smart guy, average the scores of their three games against West Po this season if you want to pick and choose games to average
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 11:19     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:Battlefield fails again.


They crushed expectations this year after graduating stud goalie but keep sippin' the Haterade. Might finally be West Po's year! Good for them.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:57     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Objectively speaking, as many have stated the overall level of individual talent in the area has declined in recent years. You can choose to agree or disagree, but the numbers of commits and the strength of program they're committing to support that reality. Of course, like everything in sports, it’s cyclical. Talent ebbs and flows for many reasons and it’s only a matter of time before the next wave rises.

That said, this has been one of the most competitive seasons I can remember in a long time. While the skill level may not always have been elite, leading to some scrappy, even ugly stretches of play but the effort, intensity, and heart have been second to none. Every week brought surprises. Upsets became the norm, not the exception. New programs stepped into the spotlight, and parity made the season all the more exciting.

I would love to see West Po and Indy break through and hoist a trophy this year. It won't come easy though Freeman brings a lot of experience in championship games and brings plenty of talent to the table. West Po will also have another potential war of a game on their hands. No easy outs from here. Just great matchups and the kind of drama we live for. Stop complaining and enjoy it!


Agree with all this with the sole exception of that last sentence. Shutting down valid critique is silly, counterproductive and basically impossible. Complain away, you’re not wrong to note that level of play is down WHILE the athleticism and scrap is and remains excellent. So start another forum maybe on how to raise the level of play for VA public school lax, because the answers are pretty straightforward (public supported rec leagues for middle school( but the execution is wanting. Meanwhile, athleticism and scrap deserve to be celebrated.
If you could point to the valid critique that was being shut down, we'd all appreciate it. Thanks.


“We’d”? Count me out of the “we” that thinks shooting from 20 yards out with no backup is good offense. Or the “we” that thinks that over half the teams in 4/5/6 playoffs getting shellacked by mostly mediocre privates (STAB doesn’t count at this point since they recruit across North America, but Woodberry or Norfolk aren’t bad barometers) is objectively a sign of quality decline. It’s logical, not personal, so I’ll just agree with the guy who suggests another forum and letting the kids and their families enjoy their well-deserved moment.
So you don't have an example, either?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:51     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

While I agree with play being down some, you cannot only point that as a reason for commitments in the area being down.

Covid did a number on all levels of the sport- kids getting to play for 6 (or more years) for a limited number of spots on a college team. Additionally, it killing off a group a youngsters starting out- all levels

The x-fer portal is pushing boarder line D1 to D2/3.

NIL and roster sizes.

The growth of the game in other areas of the country that was not there 10 years ago. Every prime athlete in Atlanta, Florida and Denver can take a spot from NoVa, Md and NY.

The "business" of private school lacrosse. Its about money!

Shifting population centers and the cost of housing and building of new schools spreading out talent.

Just to name a few.......
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:41     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:Class 6:
Robo
Battlefield
Robo wins championship by 3+

Class 5:
Briar
Indy wins championship by 6+

Class 4:
Atlee
Meridien

Atlee wins championship by 2


Dude you really went 0 for. Stay away from DraftKings.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:30     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Objectively speaking, as many have stated the overall level of individual talent in the area has declined in recent years. You can choose to agree or disagree, but the numbers of commits and the strength of program they're committing to support that reality. Of course, like everything in sports, it’s cyclical. Talent ebbs and flows for many reasons and it’s only a matter of time before the next wave rises.

That said, this has been one of the most competitive seasons I can remember in a long time. While the skill level may not always have been elite, leading to some scrappy, even ugly stretches of play but the effort, intensity, and heart have been second to none. Every week brought surprises. Upsets became the norm, not the exception. New programs stepped into the spotlight, and parity made the season all the more exciting.

I would love to see West Po and Indy break through and hoist a trophy this year. It won't come easy though Freeman brings a lot of experience in championship games and brings plenty of talent to the table. West Po will also have another potential war of a game on their hands. No easy outs from here. Just great matchups and the kind of drama we live for. Stop complaining and enjoy it!


Agree with all this with the sole exception of that last sentence. Shutting down valid critique is silly, counterproductive and basically impossible. Complain away, you’re not wrong to note that level of play is down WHILE the athleticism and scrap is and remains excellent. So start another forum maybe on how to raise the level of play for VA public school lax, because the answers are pretty straightforward (public supported rec leagues for middle school( but the execution is wanting. Meanwhile, athleticism and scrap deserve to be celebrated.
If you could point to the valid critique that was being shut down, we'd all appreciate it. Thanks.


“We’d”? Count me out of the “we” that thinks shooting from 20 yards out with no backup is good offense. Or the “we” that thinks that over half the teams in 4/5/6 playoffs getting shellacked by mostly mediocre privates (STAB doesn’t count at this point since they recruit across North America, but Woodberry or Norfolk aren’t bad barometers) is objectively a sign of quality decline. It’s logical, not personal, so I’ll just agree with the guy who suggests another forum and letting the kids and their families enjoy their well-deserved moment.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:10     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it crazy to say that whoever wins tomorrows class 6 semifinal between Robo and Cosby, will probably win the whole thing?


Yes, since West Potomac just beat Robinson and Robinson is averaging four goals a game over its last two.



Averaging….over their last two… yeah that’s how averages work. Take two games and throw out the rest


Yes, that is how averages work. Take the sum of the values of a data set divided by the number. They played two good teams recently and scored five and three goals. That adds up to eight divided by two and averages out to four. Against good defenses they do not score a lot of goals. 7 against Cosby, 4 against Broadneck. Why would I care how many they scored against a terrible defense like Woodson or West Springfield?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 10:01     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Objectively speaking, as many have stated the overall level of individual talent in the area has declined in recent years. You can choose to agree or disagree, but the numbers of commits and the strength of program they're committing to support that reality. Of course, like everything in sports, it’s cyclical. Talent ebbs and flows for many reasons and it’s only a matter of time before the next wave rises.

That said, this has been one of the most competitive seasons I can remember in a long time. While the skill level may not always have been elite, leading to some scrappy, even ugly stretches of play but the effort, intensity, and heart have been second to none. Every week brought surprises. Upsets became the norm, not the exception. New programs stepped into the spotlight, and parity made the season all the more exciting.

I would love to see West Po and Indy break through and hoist a trophy this year. It won't come easy though Freeman brings a lot of experience in championship games and brings plenty of talent to the table. West Po will also have another potential war of a game on their hands. No easy outs from here. Just great matchups and the kind of drama we live for. Stop complaining and enjoy it!


Agree with all this with the sole exception of that last sentence. Shutting down valid critique is silly, counterproductive and basically impossible. Complain away, you’re not wrong to note that level of play is down WHILE the athleticism and scrap is and remains excellent. So start another forum maybe on how to raise the level of play for VA public school lax, because the answers are pretty straightforward (public supported rec leagues for middle school( but the execution is wanting. Meanwhile, athleticism and scrap deserve to be celebrated.
If you could point to the valid critique that was being shut down, we'd all appreciate it. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 09:55     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it crazy to say that whoever wins tomorrows class 6 semifinal between Robo and Cosby, will probably win the whole thing?


Yes, since West Potomac just beat Robinson and Robinson is averaging four goals a game over its last two.



Averaging….over their last two… yeah that’s how averages work. Take two games and throw out the rest
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 09:47     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:Objectively speaking, as many have stated the overall level of individual talent in the area has declined in recent years. You can choose to agree or disagree, but the numbers of commits and the strength of program they're committing to support that reality. Of course, like everything in sports, it’s cyclical. Talent ebbs and flows for many reasons and it’s only a matter of time before the next wave rises.

That said, this has been one of the most competitive seasons I can remember in a long time. While the skill level may not always have been elite, leading to some scrappy, even ugly stretches of play but the effort, intensity, and heart have been second to none. Every week brought surprises. Upsets became the norm, not the exception. New programs stepped into the spotlight, and parity made the season all the more exciting.

I would love to see West Po and Indy break through and hoist a trophy this year. It won't come easy though Freeman brings a lot of experience in championship games and brings plenty of talent to the table. West Po will also have another potential war of a game on their hands. No easy outs from here. Just great matchups and the kind of drama we live for. Stop complaining and enjoy it!


Agree with all this with the sole exception of that last sentence. Shutting down valid critique is silly, counterproductive and basically impossible. Complain away, you’re not wrong to note that level of play is down WHILE the athleticism and scrap is and remains excellent. So start another forum maybe on how to raise the level of play for VA public school lax, because the answers are pretty straightforward (public supported rec leagues for middle school( but the execution is wanting. Meanwhile, athleticism and scrap deserve to be celebrated.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2025 09:46     Subject: VHSL Boys Lacrosse 2025 Season

Anonymous wrote:Objectively speaking, as many have stated the overall level of individual talent in the area has declined in recent years. You can choose to agree or disagree, but the numbers of commits and the strength of program they're committing to support that reality. Of course, like everything in sports, it’s cyclical. Talent ebbs and flows for many reasons and it’s only a matter of time before the next wave rises.

That said, this has been one of the most competitive seasons I can remember in a long time. While the skill level may not always have been elite, leading to some scrappy, even ugly stretches of play but the effort, intensity, and heart have been second to none. Every week brought surprises. Upsets became the norm, not the exception. New programs stepped into the spotlight, and parity made the season all the more exciting.

I would love to see West Po and Indy break through and hoist a trophy this year. It won't come easy though Freeman brings a lot of experience in championship games and brings plenty of talent to the table. West Po will also have another potential war of a game on their hands. No easy outs from here. Just great matchups and the kind of drama we live for. Stop complaining and enjoy it!


Very well said. Tremendous season with more exciting games to come!