Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:54
Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:No matter how much you keep saying nobody cares, the fact that more and more businesses are openly requiring vaccines shows that there is indeed a customer base that does care.
What businesses are those? I'm out all the time in restaurants and stores, and have been to a Nationals, Wizards and DC United game since they reopened. No vaccination requirements anywhere.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:53
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Agree. If you don't want to vax, patronize places that align with your views and don't require vaccination.
If you respect vaccine science and the power of vax, patronize the places that align with those views and do require the vax.
Except, the majority of people probably fall into a third category: they don't care whether a place requires its patrons to be vaccinated or not.
Then they can go where they please if they are vaxxed and can go to places that don't require a vax if they are unvaxxed.
Yes, but I don't want to deal with the hassle of proving I'm vaccinated when I go buy groceries or get a latte. I think you'll find that the majority of people line up behind me, more than they do with you. Given the choice of two establishments, I'll pick the one without a proof of vaccination requirement.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:49
Subject: How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
No matter how much you keep saying nobody cares, the fact that more and more businesses are openly requiring vaccines shows that there is indeed a customer base that does care.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:48
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Yeah, that's been my experience outside of the DMV, especially in the South and Florida. I've been to Florida twice since the Governor rescinded the mask mandate. The only place I was required to wear a mask was at the airport. And even there, I took it off at the bar.
There isn't going to be a national vaccine passport, since the Federal government doesn't seem to have the stomach for such a political fight. And there are many parts of the country where the people will absolutely reject a general vaccination requirement. In some places, the state government is already banning businesses from implementing such a requirement.
So, that leaves just a handful of businesses that might require their patrons to be vaccinated, such as certain medical offices.
I think the mistake some people on this thread are making is arguing that vaccinated people are all on the same page about imposing a vaccination requirement. I really doubt that's true. I don't care, and the vaccinated people I know don't give a damn, either.
There is a difference between a government mandated vaccine requirement and private businesses choosing to implement one. The latter is already happening in the blue state where I live, because of customer demand. You may not care, but you aren't the relevant customer here. I assume since businesses are implementing it, they see a value to their business.
Or are you arguing that government should start forcing private enterprises to accept non-vaccinated customers?
They will likely have to pass legislation in order to do that.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:47
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Yeah, that's been my experience outside of the DMV, especially in the South and Florida. I've been to Florida twice since the Governor rescinded the mask mandate. The only place I was required to wear a mask was at the airport. And even there, I took it off at the bar.
There isn't going to be a national vaccine passport, since the Federal government doesn't seem to have the stomach for such a political fight. And there are many parts of the country where the people will absolutely reject a general vaccination requirement. In some places, the state government is already banning businesses from implementing such a requirement.
So, that leaves just a handful of businesses that might require their patrons to be vaccinated, such as certain medical offices.
I think the mistake some people on this thread are making is arguing that vaccinated people are all on the same page about imposing a vaccination requirement. I really doubt that's true. I don't care, and the vaccinated people I know don't give a damn, either.
Many colleges will require it tp attend in person. parents and students are grateful for this and do give a damn.
Now you speak for all parents? My kid will be a senior next year. He'll be vaccinated, but I don't care one way or the other whether his future college will require vaccination. Don't assume everyone who is vaccinated is on your "team."
And state legislatures and Governors will likely ban universities from requiring vaccines, in many places.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:46
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Yeah, that's been my experience outside of the DMV, especially in the South and Florida. I've been to Florida twice since the Governor rescinded the mask mandate. The only place I was required to wear a mask was at the airport. And even there, I took it off at the bar.
There isn't going to be a national vaccine passport, since the Federal government doesn't seem to have the stomach for such a political fight. And there are many parts of the country where the people will absolutely reject a general vaccination requirement. In some places, the state government is already banning businesses from implementing such a requirement.
So, that leaves just a handful of businesses that might require their patrons to be vaccinated, such as certain medical offices.
I think the mistake some people on this thread are making is arguing that vaccinated people are all on the same page about imposing a vaccination requirement. I really doubt that's true. I don't care, and the vaccinated people I know don't give a damn, either.
There is a difference between a government mandated vaccine requirement and private businesses choosing to implement one. The latter is already happening in the blue state where I live, because of customer demand. You may not care, but you aren't the relevant customer here. I assume since businesses are implementing it, they see a value to their business.
Or are you arguing that government should start forcing private enterprises to accept non-vaccinated customers?
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:46
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Agree. If you don't want to vax, patronize places that align with your views and don't require vaccination.
If you respect vaccine science and the power of vax, patronize the places that align with those views and do require the vax.
Except, the majority of people probably fall into a third category: they don't care whether a place requires its patrons to be vaccinated or not.
Then they can go where they please if they are vaxxed and can go to places that don't require a vax if they are unvaxxed.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:43
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Agree. If you don't want to vax, patronize places that align with your views and don't require vaccination.
If you respect vaccine science and the power of vax, patronize the places that align with those views and do require the vax.
Except, the majority of people probably fall into a third category: they don't care whether a place requires its patrons to be vaccinated or not.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:42
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Yeah, that's been my experience outside of the DMV, especially in the South and Florida. I've been to Florida twice since the Governor rescinded the mask mandate. The only place I was required to wear a mask was at the airport. And even there, I took it off at the bar.
There isn't going to be a national vaccine passport, since the Federal government doesn't seem to have the stomach for such a political fight. And there are many parts of the country where the people will absolutely reject a general vaccination requirement. In some places, the state government is already banning businesses from implementing such a requirement.
So, that leaves just a handful of businesses that might require their patrons to be vaccinated, such as certain medical offices.
I think the mistake some people on this thread are making is arguing that vaccinated people are all on the same page about imposing a vaccination requirement. I really doubt that's true. I don't care, and the vaccinated people I know don't give a damn, either.
Many colleges will require it tp attend in person. parents and students are grateful for this and do give a damn.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:39
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Yeah, that's been my experience outside of the DMV, especially in the South and Florida. I've been to Florida twice since the Governor rescinded the mask mandate. The only place I was required to wear a mask was at the airport. And even there, I took it off at the bar.
There isn't going to be a national vaccine passport, since the Federal government doesn't seem to have the stomach for such a political fight. And there are many parts of the country where the people will absolutely reject a general vaccination requirement. In some places, the state government is already banning businesses from implementing such a requirement.
So, that leaves just a handful of businesses that might require their patrons to be vaccinated, such as certain medical offices.
I think the mistake some people on this thread are making is arguing that vaccinated people are all on the same page about imposing a vaccination requirement. I really doubt that's true. I don't care, and the vaccinated people I know don't give a damn, either.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:32
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
You people suffer from significant lapses in logic. The point here is the anti-vaxxers who are running to the government to make private enterprises do what the anti-vaxxers want are whining hypocrites. If private businesses in Texas don't require vaccines, that's their choice. But it is also fine for businesses in NY to require vaccinations. It is grossly hypocritical for antivaxxers to whine on and on about how awful the government was for having mask regulations and how overreaching that is, but then whine that the government needs to force private enterprises to service customers who aren't vaccinated. I mean, one of you people was getting all excited about OSHA apparently forcing private enterprises to serve unvaccinated people which is ... quite something.
But gross hypocrisy is definitely part and parcel of being anti-vaxxer, so I expect it.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:30
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Agree. If you don't want to vax, patronize places that align with your views and don't require vaccination.
If you respect vaccine science and the power of vax, patronize the places that align with those views and do require the vax.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:12
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
You should travel more. Plenty of places in the country without masks. I was asked to put mine on three times since the beginning of the pandemic. Three times. You should have seen retired people partying in Arizona the day after the state lifted capacity restrictions. No masks, of course, all close together. I will go to a baseball game in Texas instead of California.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 10:48
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
No, lawsuits will.
Hahahahahahaha. Okay, let's add another line:
Anti-vaxxer: OSHA will save me!!!! The courts will order private businesses to provide me service!! There's gotta be a law somewhere to make private businesses do exactly what I want!!!! And if not I will make sure one is passed!!!!! I love laws!!! I love government!!!!! Screw private enterprise, I want big government to make private businesses.do what I want!!!
Anonymous
05/05/2021 10:42
Subject: Re:How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whining anti-vaxxer logic in this thread is quite something:
Anti-vaxxer: Nobody can make me do anything!! My rights!1!1!! It's a free country!!!!! Don't trust the government!!
Private businesses: Okay, we understand. Therefore we are going to require covid-19 vaccination for our customers.
Anti-vaxxer: What?!?! OMG!!! OSHA will save me!!! OSHA make these private businesses do.the thing I want!!!!
No, lawsuits will.
What law is being broken?