Anonymous wrote:Virginia Union vs Prediction

09: Union win
08: VDA win
07: Union win
06: Draw
05: Union win
03:/04: Union win

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

Top Arlington roster talent - about a dozen kids - went to professional academies, mostly DCU, some other MLS clubs, and one to Serie A. I'm aware of one kid who moved to SYC because he couldn't start at Arlington and was promised a starting role at SYC. There may be one or two others - but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about - and the picture you are painitng is upside down.

Upside down? You mean Arlington and Loudoun are getting players from MLS Next teams? Tell us all about it. You don’t know what is happening at the younger ages where kids do not feel locked in. All the switching is going in one direction, and only top talent is getting spots to come over.

A couple of kids switching teams at U12 and U13 "because MLS Next" doesn't mean a thing. What counts is how the kids are coached and develop thereafter. The new teams will either prove they can develop talent or they won't. That will be best measured by the number of kids that get spots at pro academies. Arlington and Richmond have proven they can do it sending kids year after year after year.

If the new clubs can do the same, then they too will become top clubs. If they can't, they won't. VDA was an example of a DA club which just never really managed to make that leap. They had full DA participation when none of the other clubs in this area did, but - with one or two exceptions which proved the rule - they couldn't/didn't develop kids, so they were never really anything other than an also-ran in the DA. There were other DA clubs in Pennsylvania which had much the same issue. Being in MLS Next isn't a guarantee of anything, any more than being in DA was before.

Only time will tell whether these new clubs can take that step.

I agree. But things change and nobody - not Arlington or Richmond - has proven they can do anything forever. It always starts with the talent coming through the door. The coaching staffs then need to perform, as you explain. Being in MLS Next isn’t a guarantee. Nor is being at any club, whether Arlington, Bethesda or Richmond. And just because some players on some teams at some clubs have done things in the past doesn’t mean anybody at those clubs will continue to do so in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

Top Arlington roster talent - about a dozen kids - went to professional academies, mostly DCU, some other MLS clubs, and one to Serie A. I'm aware of one kid who moved to SYC because he couldn't start at Arlington and was promised a starting role at SYC. There may be one or two others - but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about - and the picture you are painitng is upside down.

Upside down? You mean Arlington and Loudoun are getting players from MLS Next teams? Tell us all about it. You don’t know what is happening at the younger ages where kids do not feel locked in. All the switching is going in one direction, and only top talent is getting spots to come over.

A couple of kids switching teams at U12 and U13 "because MLS Next" doesn't mean a thing. What counts is how the kids are coached and develop thereafter. The new teams will either prove they can develop talent or they won't. That will be best measured by the number of kids that get spots at pro academies. Arlington and Richmond have proven they can do it sending kids year after year after year.

If the new clubs can do the same, then they too will become top clubs. If they can't, they won't. VDA was an example of a DA club which just never really managed to make that leap. They had full DA participation when none of the other clubs in this area did, but - with one or two exceptions which proved the rule - they couldn't/didn't develop kids, so they were never really anything other than an also-ran in the DA. There were other DA clubs in Pennsylvania which had much the same issue. Being in MLS Next isn't a guarantee of anything, any more than being in DA was before.

Only time will tell whether these new clubs can take that step.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

Top Arlington roster talent - about a dozen kids - went to professional academies, mostly DCU, some other MLS clubs, and one to Serie A. I'm aware of one kid who moved to SYC because he couldn't start at Arlington and was promised a starting role at SYC. There may be one or two others - but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about - and the picture you are painitng is upside down.

Upside down? You mean Arlington and Loudoun are getting players from MLS Next teams? Tell us all about it. You don’t know what is happening at the younger ages where kids do not feel locked in. All the switching is going in one direction, and only top talent is getting spots to come over.

Anonymous wrote:Union has not posted scores of ECNL games for U13/U14.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

Top Arlington roster talent - about a dozen kids - went to professional academies, mostly DCU, some other MLS clubs, and one to Serie A. I'm aware of one kid who moved to SYC because he couldn't start at Arlington and was promised a starting role at SYC. There may be one or two others - but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about - and the picture you are painitng is upside down.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Did not say SYC. Top Arlington roster talent went to Achilles. SYC got VDA’s top kids and one of the better Arlington players. Get your facts straight before you sound like an idiot. I am sure you will still be a smug ass, but you won’t sound as dumb as you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

Lol. SYC attracting "top of the roster" talent from Arlington. What nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:Another great thing about the alliance is the diversity on the team and mixing of various communities and backgrounds. It's a great growth and learning opportunity for the kids to be teammates from different backgrounds to learn and understand each other's lives. And most of all representative of the world we live in today.

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Anonymous wrote:I was told top MLS Next SYC players were going to be duel rostered on the ECNL team too. Did that not happen? My DS is still a year away from this

MLS Next players can't dual roster with an ECNL team nor can MLS Next players play for their high school soccer team (unless you get a waiver). This was determined a while back.

Except they can for Va Union. I think there are a couple of players who are rostered on the ECNL team and can guest play in a certain number of games wirh SYC’s MLS next team.

Yep. This is the only way this is supposed to work. Mls next players cannot play ecnl or other league games.

Gotta preserve that illusion of eliteness

It's not an illusion when top-of-the-roster players from ECNL teams like Arlington, VDA and Loudoun are moving to MLS Next teams like SYC and Achilles. The MLS Next teams to which they moved would handily beat the teams they left. So that's reality. Not just including "Elite" in your league name, which is increasingly ironic on the boys side.

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Anonymous wrote:Hasn't ECNL always been a step below the Development Academy (DA) League which is basically now MLS Next? And hasn't it always been known if you want to play pro DA/MLS Next is where you want to be and if you want to play soccer in College ECNL is the league to be in? Though if I were a College I'd be looking at both leagues to recruit.

I'm sure if you took a top MLS Next team vs a top ECNL team the MLS Next team would have a slight advantage, but would probably be a very close game.

I would disagree with DA is now MLS. When that transition happened, some former DA clubs went ECNL, and MLSNext let in some clubs that never would have qualified or have been considered under the DA rules. Each region is going to be different with regards to were the stronger clubs ended up.

So maybe this makes ECNL and MLSNext somewhat even if MLSNext let some weaker clubs in.

Like SYC, Alexandria, and Achilles?