Anonymous wrote:How lower than 4.3 is the GPA? For some schools in Nova, this might put the student in the top 10%.
Grade inflation is unbelievable these last years.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of applicants go wrong when they think college admissions, especially at selective schools, is a stats-only arms race. Think about this, if you were to ask someone to join your family, club, or other small community, who would it be? How would you determine that? Where would you source your applications? How would it be impacted both by your own desires and timing and those of the applicants? Think hard about that because, in some ways, that is the college admissions game.

at Privates and SLACs, sure. At publics, especially those that have to answer to politicians, it's formulaic. You may not like or understand everything that goes into the formula- the kid from podunk high has a better shot than your kid because the school is supposed to serve the whole state- but that doesn't mean there aren't formulas

Anonymous wrote:A lot of applicants go wrong when they think college admissions, especially at selective schools, is a stats-only arms race. Think about this, if you were to ask someone to join your family, club, or other small community, who would it be? How would you determine that? Where would you source your applications? How would it be impacted both by your own desires and timing and those of the applicants? Think hard about that because, in some ways, that is the college admissions game.

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Anonymous wrote:DC had an 800 math SAT (total 1520), non-academic EC activities included a national title and min 20 hrs/week, attended a Gov STEM School and summer GOV school in performing arts, And is a legacy - rejected from UVA (GPA < 4.3 prior to Sr yr, Asian and from NoVa). Dean J's blogs that tell students that there is no minimum GPA, that it is about the whole student, and that there are no quotas are a little hard to believe...What's sad amongst other things is that DC would not have spent time getting wasted at fraternity/sorority parties and has exactly the integrity UVA's honor system would desire.

Wow, that's very upsetting. I am a UVA alum and I've posted previously. I am appalled that students like your DC were not accepted yet students with lesser stats, publicly posted here, were. Good luck to your DC. Your DC is UVA's great loss. I'm sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:So I had a kid enter UVA in 2009. He had a 1970 SAT on the old scale, which I just calculated would be a 1360 on the new scale. He was below the mean on the SAT both then and now by about the same amount.

Why is everybody saying that admissions are so much more competitive now, then? Yes, there are more applications, but the stats for those admitted and enrolling haven't changed all that much.

Yes, the statistics have changed dramatically. The entire world of college admissions has changed in just the last few years, not to mention the eleven years ago. My DD recently graduated. She would not get into UVA today, I am confident. Her GPA and test scores are too low for a white student from NOVA.

If you are applying from NoVA for UVA you need to be in the top ten percent of your class although some college counselors now say top five percent. The 75th percentile GPA of ENROLLED students last fall was a 4.48; median was 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. ACTs were 34 at the 75th percentile. SAT was 1480 at the 75th percentile. A 1360 would place around the 35th percentile of enrolled students. BUT, the lower percentiles are predominantly used for URMs, low-income, first-generation, unusually talents, athletes, legacies, and other special interest groups. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Yes, this is a good thing, there is not a dearth of great public schools in Virginia. Quite the opposite, other than California we have an amazing group of colleges here in Virginia. Getting into our state flagship should be for our best in the state and followed by great out of state students. Welcome to the real world, NOVA is not the center of the universe, there are many deserving kids in other parts of Virginia that are honestly more than worthy of admittance than NOVA kids, Virginia is more than the DCUM world.

DP. I see your point; however, as a STATE school, UVA needs to admit more in-state than OOS. I realize they already do, but perhaps they need to lower the OOS admits more. Taxpayers should be benefiting over OOS.

Go away. There are many other very high-quality in-state options, and UVA is staying in its top-tier public status by maintaining its standards.

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Anonymous wrote:DC had an 800 math SAT (total 1520), non-academic EC activities included a national title and min 20 hrs/week, attended a Gov STEM School and summer GOV school in performing arts, And is a legacy - rejected from UVA (GPA < 4.3 prior to Sr yr, Asian and from NoVa). Dean J's blogs that tell students that there is no minimum GPA, that it is about the whole student, and that there are no quotas are a little hard to believe...What's sad amongst other things is that DC would not have spent time getting wasted at fraternity/sorority parties and has exactly the integrity UVA's honor system would desire.

Wow, that's very upsetting. I am a UVA alum and I've posted previously. I am appalled that students like your DC were not accepted yet students with lesser stats, publicly posted here, were. Good luck to your DC. Your DC is UVA's great loss. I'm sorry.

Anonymous wrote:DC had an 800 math SAT (total 1520), non-academic EC activities included a national title and min 20 hrs/week, attended a Gov STEM School and summer GOV school in performing arts, And is a legacy - rejected from UVA (GPA < 4.3 prior to Sr yr, Asian and from NoVa). Dean J's blogs that tell students that there is no minimum GPA, that it is about the whole student, and that there are no quotas are a little hard to believe...What's sad amongst other things is that DC would not have spent time getting wasted at fraternity/sorority parties and has exactly the integrity UVA's honor system would desire.