Anonymous
07/14/2020 17:03
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:LOL you sound unhinged. It must be tough being the righteous warrior of conservatism or is that just your racism showing itself?
LOL - this just made me laugh.
1. This post has absolutely nothing to do with racism, so why bring it up?
2. Conservative DOES NOT EQUAL racist. I have many POC friends who are conservative.
3. I am a moderate -- I hate extremism on both sides. I despise the far left extremist/fanatical view just as much as the far right extremist/fanatical view -- these extreme left/right groups are self-righteous and polarizing.
4. I'm back to laughing again at the ignorance of it all.
+100
I truly believe most Americans feel this way. DCUM is shocking because of the over-the-top liberals who frequent this site. I have to remind myself, they don't represent anything but their very narrow, strange bubble.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 17:02
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
The brands with the bamboo covers are better. My liberal ass did buy a My Pillow, and it just isn’t as good as the others. I’m still buying Goya products, too. I think most boycotts are stupid. The Nike shoes in the trash was utterly ridiculous.
A lot of people used to try to boycott Disney back in the day, when they were one of the first big employers in Florida to offer domestic partner benefits. Disney never backed down. They were always like “yeah, boycott away! We’re not changing our policies.”
OMG - see...liberal and conservative asses can agree
There might still be hope for our country! (BTW, my conservative ass would never boycott a company for offering domestic partner benefits either).
Anonymous
07/14/2020 17:01
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.
Here's the thing....sure I might buy the product from one CEO over another....BUT...there's a huge difference between respectfully choosing to buy one product over another and what's going on with the GOYA boycott....the GOYA boycott has crossed the line into purposefully defaming the CEO and GOYA brand over a very petty thing such as the CEO supporting POTUS.
You are probably the person who thinks it's ok to cut ties with friends/family members who support POTUS. Whatever happened to respecting everyone's differing political views/affiliation? It's the same as respecting respecting everyone's religious views.
Why is this different than boycotting Chick-Fil-A because the CEO supports organizations that object to and fought gay marriage rights and LGBTQ rights? Or boycotting Hobby Lobby because they use religious objections to restrict the company provided health insurance from covering contraception to their female employees, or boycotting Home Depot because the co-Founder has provided a lot of donations to the Trump reelection campaign, boycotting Papa John after the CEO made racist remarks and used the N-word talking about NFL football players and so on?
CEO's, corporate founders and other senior corporate officers need to realize that when the are in prominent positions, they are the face of the company they represent. They need to be cautious about statements or actions that take political stances or show political support for controversial subjects and realize in a capitalist society, that there will be people who disagree with political statements and actions who will vote with their dollars. You may or may not agree with these people, but they have a right to control how they spend their dollars and to choose not to support organizations that have positions that are different from their customers and consumers.
Mr. Unanue could have easily thanked the President for certain actions that benefitted his company. But to blanket praise a leader with the comment "We're all truly blessed at the same time to have a leader like President Trump, who is a builder." when said leader has been responsible for horrible anti-Hispanic rhetoric and policies that directly affect a large portion of his customers, is just plain insensitive. And if you chooses to say such things and to defend such statements, then, he should not be surprised to see his family business profits change as his customers choose not to purchase his company's products over such an insensitive position.
You are insane. Just admit - if he had merely thanked Trump for "certain actions that benefitted his company," the reaction from partisan nut jobs like yourself would have been exactly the same. For you, the only acceptable action would have been for Unanue to not even set foot in the Trump White House.
I'm beyond glad Unanue is able to think for himself and doesn't feel pressure from the left to behave in a certain way. His business will be just fine because most Americans are sane, normal human beings.
-DP
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:59
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sure you will.
Pray tell: what did you make with your two cans of garbanzo beans?
Hummus.
Great! Good choice. Guess you'll be eating a LOT of hummus from now on if you intend to overcome the boycott.
^^ This person is clearly angry because s/he knows the boycott won't affect Goya. Such impotent rage!
Non-boycotter here. Why do people make up both facts and feelings and put them in the minds of strangers on the Internet?
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Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:58
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.
Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.
LOL you sound unhinged. It must be tough being the righteous warrior of conservatism or is that just your racism showing itself?
Oh, the irony!
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:51
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Yes, we don't agree on what is virtuous - and we can shop accordingly, as we like. That's the free market.
"Cancel culture" just means people are upset about a thing you like. No one is banning Goya. I will simply select other canned beans from the store next time, just as I will never buy another My Pillow pillow. I think Trump is an evil boil on the a** of America, and like h*ll I am going to spend my money supporting businesses that support his killing of Americans. I call it draining the commercial swamp.
Really? Have you actually bought a My Pillow at all?
Actually yes! My mom turned me onto My Pillows a long time ago, before Trump's presidency was even an inkling. They are great pillows. But when this crop gets worn out, I will find another brand, that is smart enough not to associate itself with Captain Poppy Pants
DP. I actually don't have a My Pillow, but I've heard enough good reviews of them (including yours) that I think I'll grab a few. Thanks for the recommendation!
The brands with the bamboo covers are better. My liberal ass did buy a My Pillow, and it just isn’t as good as the others. I’m still buying Goya products, too. I think most boycotts are stupid. The Nike shoes in the trash was utterly ridiculous.
A lot of people used to try to boycott Disney back in the day, when they were one of the first big employers in Florida to offer domestic partner benefits. Disney never backed down. They were always like “yeah, boycott away! We’re not changing our policies.”
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:50
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Go back to page 15 and read my post from 12:34.
While there is short-term buying of Goya products and they are selling off the shelves, traditionally people that boycott products and companies are long-term repeat buyers who switch to other brands. The people who are buying to object to boycotts are typically short-term buyers who are trying to counter a boycott. They will buy products now, but they are not typically repeat customers of such products and so after a month, two or three, they will stop their protest buying. So, boycotts often have no effect short term, but will have lasting effects after the current quarter or two goes by when the objectors stop buying but the boycotters do not return to the products.
LOL, those signs have been there since March, as they are for rices, pastas and other shelf-stable items that got cleaned out. Not a result of the recent topic.
Just at our local Safeway. The Goya section was fully stocked. Not a single space open on the shelves. Also much mire expensive vs other options. Now all around the Goya products, same products from different companies showed signs people were buying them.
I was just at our local Giant, where the Goya section was picked over. I guess my anecdote cancels out yours?
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:48
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.
In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.
And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.
I wouldn't compare those boycotts to the GOYA one. The GOYA boycott is simply because the CEO supported POTUS, which I would never equate with supporting apartheid/discrimination, deforestation, or child prostitution.
Exactly. These people are such morons.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:48
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Because supporting a racist and racism....
Although I do not like Trump and didn't vote for him...I would not say that everyone who does should be deemed racist or supporting racism. We'll just have to agree to disagree. He is the democratically elected POTUS whether we like it or not.
My DD received her GS Gold Award a few yrs ago and received various letters of recognition, including one from Trump who is the current POTUS whether we like it or not. The letter is kept along with others from Senator Tim Kaine, etc. We would never destroy the letter as some extreme leftists might because again, he's still the POTUS. Although admittedly my DD just rolled her eyes when she got the letter
And as previously stated...this is why the GOYA CEO said what he said....he said the politically correct and polite thing to the democratically elected POTUS. Agree 100% that the outrage is ridiculous.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:47
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Seems like now is the perfect market opportunity for someone like Jose Andreas to provide shelf-stable products to former Goya consumers. And he could use those profits to bolster the excellent work he’s doing with World Central Kitchen.
Sure! Goya has been doing excellent work with multiple charitable endeavors for years. The more the merrier!
Goya has always strived to be a company of passionate people that care about making a difference in the community. In 2018, Goya was ranked #2 as a leading U.S. food brand for its social influence and community support, according to TotalSocial rankings. Through Goya Gives, Goya supports nearly 300 charitable endeavors, programs, scholarships, and events, and donates millions of pounds of food to local food banks and shelters, especially during times of natural disasters such as Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, Superstorm Sandy, and Hurricanes Harvey and Irene. In 2017-2018, the company launched the ‘Can Do’ campaign to benefit Feeding America and donated over 1.5 million pounds of food to families in need across the country. In 2011, President Barack Obama honored Goya for its continued success and commitment to the Hispanic community, the only company to ever be honored by the President. In 2012, Goya collaborated with First Lady Michelle Obama and the USDA to launch the MyPlate/ MiPlato campaign. Goya recognizes the important role businesses play in leading the way for environmental change, and is the largest user of solar energy among Hispanic owned food and beverage companies, ranking as one of the top corporate solar users in the U.S. food and beverage industry.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:45
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
+1,000,000
What is free is up to the consumer. If you don't care what causes and politicians the business you buy from support, then great. Others do care. They are not imposing or curtailing your rights i doing that, and there is no reason for you to feel exhausted or offended by the idea.
A free market is a free market, and the more educated one is about the marketplace, the better it is for all involved.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:43
Subject: How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't get why the Trump supporters are so afraid of the free market. This is capitalism in action. There are market choices and people are making them. Why do Trump supporters fear capitalism?
Because there are more of us than them. When we boycott, it actually works. When they boycott, nobody cares. Capitalism.
You sure about that?
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:42
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.
Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.
DP. Couldn't agree more. If I even catch a whiff of this self-righteous, smug attitude, I run the opposite way.
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:41
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.
In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.
And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.
See, that's funny. The boycotts you list above were actually for very serious, credible reasons. The Goya "boycott" is because the CEO said some nice things about Trump. It's really hilarious how far off the cliff Democrats have gone in recent years.
-DP
Anonymous
07/14/2020 16:39
Subject: Re:How widespread is the boycott against Goya Foods?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of Trump and didn't vote for him....BUT....the boycott against GOYA foods based on the CEO simply supporting the current US President is IMHO totally wrong and actually is making me (and others) go out and buy tons of GOYA products just to support free speech!
Boycotting a company/restaurant solely because you don't agree with the CEO's political or religious views is akin to discrimination and censorship and leads to a slippery slope....
It sounds like the free market to me. Sometimes you select one product over a substantially similar one because the company does virtuous things - like adopt fair labor policies, or good environmental practices. Sometimes you reject one product over another that is substantially similar because the company does evil things, like support Trump. That's capitalism - the market speaking.
What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.
Yes, we don't agree on what is virtuous - and we can shop accordingly, as we like. That's the free market.
"Cancel culture" just means people are upset about a thing you like. No one is banning Goya. I will simply select other canned beans from the store next time, just as I will never buy another My Pillow pillow. I think Trump is an evil boil on the a** of America, and like h*ll I am going to spend my money supporting businesses that support his killing of Americans. I call it draining the commercial swamp.
Really? Have you actually bought a My Pillow at all?
Actually yes! My mom turned me onto My Pillows a long time ago, before Trump's presidency was even an inkling. They are great pillows. But when this crop gets worn out, I will find another brand, that is smart enough not to associate itself with Captain Poppy Pants
DP. I actually don't have a My Pillow, but I've heard enough good reviews of them (including yours) that I think I'll grab a few. Thanks for the recommendation!