Anonymous
07/09/2020 09:27
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Well we are in fact paid for 10 months according to contract, so I’m not sure what your economics point is there. And if you look at your pay stub, on each check it subtracts an amount for “summer pay”. It also keeps a nifty total of the amount you’ve contributed YTD so far.
The point is that the arrangement was negotiated by sophisticated parties. If the union had prioritized fighting the payment schedule, you would have earned less, so it’s not an interest free loan in that sense... the interest is baked in.
So you think if teachers each individually had a choice, 10 or 12 month payout, that the people who chose 10 months would be paid less? I've been in districts where you could choose and there as no difference in total pay between 10 and 12 months. It just allowed people to choose whether they wanted more money through out the school year or to be paid over the summer.
Anonymous
07/09/2020 00:29
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Well we are in fact paid for 10 months according to contract, so I’m not sure what your economics point is there. And if you look at your pay stub, on each check it subtracts an amount for “summer pay”. It also keeps a nifty total of the amount you’ve contributed YTD so far.
The point is that the arrangement was negotiated by sophisticated parties. If the union had prioritized fighting the payment schedule, you would have earned less, so it’s not an interest free loan in that sense... the interest is baked in.
They didn’t negotiate 10 or 12 months. They are separate salary scales. They negotiate our salary, DCPS pays us. Still doesn’t change the fact that money is literally taken out of each paycheck and held onto for months.
Anyway, irrelevant to the thread so let’s get back on topic.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 23:53
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Well we are in fact paid for 10 months according to contract, so I’m not sure what your economics point is there. And if you look at your pay stub, on each check it subtracts an amount for “summer pay”. It also keeps a nifty total of the amount you’ve contributed YTD so far.
The point is that the arrangement was negotiated by sophisticated parties. If the union had prioritized fighting the payment schedule, you would have earned less, so it’s not an interest free loan in that sense... the interest is baked in.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 23:52
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Well we are in fact paid for 10 months according to contract, so I’m not sure what your economics point is there. And if you look at your pay stub, on each check it subtracts an amount for “summer pay”. It also keeps a nifty total of the amount you’ve contributed YTD so far.
I believe PP is saying the overall total annual salary amount the city agreed to when the amount was negotiated would have been lower if they were paying it over 10 mos but they agreed to higher total salary amount because they’re paying it over 12 mos which benefits them / is economically better for them than having to pay it all over 10 mos.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 23:26
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Well we are in fact paid for 10 months according to contract, so I’m not sure what your economics point is there. And if you look at your pay stub, on each check it subtracts an amount for “summer pay”. It also keeps a nifty total of the amount you’ve contributed YTD so far.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 22:12
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
No. Your union-negotiated pay is based on the payment structure. If the union had negotiated for 10 months of pay, you would have gotten paid less. That’s how economics works. You didn’t give the city an interest free loan any more than the city gave you free money in exchange for taking your payments over more time. It was a negotiated outcome where the economic cost to teachers / benefit to the city of teachers getting paid more slowly were very much taken into account. These aren’t unsophisticated parties. Don’t kid yourself.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:54
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
Actually, you could have been paid only during the school year, but you chose to be paid year round. I agree teachers aren’t getting a fair shake in this pandemic, but acting like you gave the city an interest-free loan is not accurate.
Actually you are wrong. Teachers only have this option if they began employment prior to 1995.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:54
Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
It isn’t an option lol Someone who isn’t a DCPS ET-15 is spouting out incorrect information as usual.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:51
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
Actually, you could have been paid only during the school year, but you chose to be paid year round. I agree teachers aren’t getting a fair shake in this pandemic, but acting like you gave the city an interest-free loan is not accurate.
I have never been given the option. How do I select that?
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:28
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
Actually, you could have been paid only during the school year, but you chose to be paid year round. I agree teachers aren’t getting a fair shake in this pandemic, but acting like you gave the city an interest-free loan is not accurate.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:27
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/08/warning-of-serious-brain-disorders-in-people-with-mild-covid-symptoms
Definitely makes me eager to send my kids back to school. 🙄
Definitely makes me eager to send my kids back to school. 🙄
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:10
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:This thread makes me think of what’s been floating around on social media today- a side by side comparison of two Washington Post articles.
Article 1: “Ryan Zimmerman, citing family’s health, is still deciding whether he will play baseball this season”
Article 2: “Teachers in Fairfax revolt against fall plans, refusing to teach in-person”
So teachers are “revolting” but he’s just a family man trying time do what is best for his family?!?! That’s the spin???
The treatment of teachers in this country is disgusting.
+1
Anonymous
07/08/2020 13:03
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
This thread makes me think of what’s been floating around on social media today- a side by side comparison of two Washington Post articles.
Article 1: “Ryan Zimmerman, citing family’s health, is still deciding whether he will play baseball this season”
Article 2: “Teachers in Fairfax revolt against fall plans, refusing to teach in-person”
So teachers are “revolting” but he’s just a family man trying time do what is best for his family?!?! That’s the spin???
The treatment of teachers in this country is disgusting.
Article 1: “Ryan Zimmerman, citing family’s health, is still deciding whether he will play baseball this season”
Article 2: “Teachers in Fairfax revolt against fall plans, refusing to teach in-person”
So teachers are “revolting” but he’s just a family man trying time do what is best for his family?!?! That’s the spin???
The treatment of teachers in this country is disgusting.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 11:57
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.
Yeah, technically we gave the city an interest free loan all year for our summer pay.
Anonymous
07/08/2020 08:11
Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance
Anonymous wrote: The teacher’s union is out of control. Teachers are getting every cent while working virtually - minimally. The can do better and should do better. If they can’t work, fine. But they are just making it that much harder for the teachers who will be willing to come teach in person. Come on, you are a teacher, teach.
It's summer.