Anonymous
Post 10/11/2019 14:24     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

NP here. As a young man, I tried to do the right thing. I dated women who could stand to lose a few pounds, not the most attractive on the basis that they would be better people than the 8s, 9s, and 10s that have their choice of men. Boy, was I wrong! They proved to be just as entitled and treated me just as badly as I feared the attractive women would.

After that experience, I decided that it was 7s or better for me. At least if I was going to be treated poorly, I’d enjoy the ride. Except that didn’t happen. Found a hottie who appreciated me and married her.

TL; DR: Men, don’t settle.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2019 13:57     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:Keep coddling your sons, ladies.

Bingo! Lazy, entitled boys become lazy, entitled men. Mothers need to grab this bull by the horns and stop this.


Stop what, precisely? This thread has women singing the praises of men who make $500K or $700K a year. Not everyone can end up doing that. Not everyone has the right personality to end up making money like that.

I think most women would be fine with less than $500K. They are looking for someone who can at the least be an equal partner. I don't know any successful women looking for a man who makes $500K+ only. They are looking for men who make about the same as them, which is usually around the $100K - $150K mark. My DH and I make about the same, about $160K.


If I made $500k, what would I need a woman for?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2019 09:55     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. [b]Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack.
Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".


Hahahaha! PP is such a dumbass!


I like fat women because they are most capable of bestriding Triceratops.


Yes but a smart modern man will simply buy that meat at a supermarket. Maybe that's why things are struggling at the moment, women now want a smarter man than the one who fought a bison yeons ago.


Yes, this is modern woman's dilemma. The part of her brain she controls knows that being provided for and protected is not dependent on a man's stature, as it was 20,000 years ago. She continues to be physically attracted to height and strength, however. She can't help it and it is not wrong.

Signed, a man.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2019 09:30     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. [b]Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack.
Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".


Hahahaha! PP is such a dumbass!


I like fat women because they are most capable of bestriding Triceratops.


Yes but a smart modern man will simply buy that meat at a supermarket. Maybe that's why things are struggling at the moment, women now want a smarter man than the one who fought a bison yeons ago.


Let me guess. You are a woman who thinks you are the smartest person in the room? LOL how’s that going for you? Pulling in the big bucks? An economically attractive man has to make over $650k. Do you make that much?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2019 09:24     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to find an economically attractive man, but it definitely is hard to do. As a woman, with a masters degree and working on an MBA, I just want someone with the same drive and the ability to take care of themselves and not be burden to my wallet.


It’s really not that hard, especially if you’re getting your MBA. Just “network” within your grad and undergrad friend groups? That’s always worked well for me and I’ve never slept with anyone who makes less than I do (~$220k).



No you could always end up with one of the failures. You have to go after a guy who is already made it through the low level stuff. $220k is a joke. You can not put two kids through private school with the wife have a social outlet/SAH job on that.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 22:37     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:Thank God I graduated from Ivy undergrad and grad school, am attractive, and tall.

I wouldn't let a woman less than an eight even SMD. No joke. You ever see the vast majority of women over 30? They're disgusting beasts.

Men always have and always will have the upper hand.

And how is this all working for you, Ace?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 21:39     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

smart modern man = metrosexual who can't think his way out of a paper bag.

common sense matters a lot.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 21:26     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. [b]Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack.
Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".


Hahahaha! PP is such a dumbass!


I like fat women because they are most capable of bestriding Triceratops.


Yes but a smart modern man will simply buy that meat at a supermarket. Maybe that's why things are struggling at the moment, women now want a smarter man than the one who fought a bison yeons ago.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 21:21     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


But you did get married like many other shorter men. It's funny how in these threads the men go on and on about how they want an attractive young partner but then want to date anything and everyone and complain when women call them short and refuse to date them. It works both ways. You may refuse a curvy female or flat chested female and she may refuse a short male.

Women may want 6 ft 3 millionaires and find they can't get married. Men find anything over 30 an unattractive beast and find they can't get married. Ah it's interesting times.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 21:11     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:Thank God I graduated from Ivy undergrad and grad school, am attractive, and tall.

I wouldn't let a woman less than an eight even SMD. No joke. You ever see the vast majority of women over 30? They're disgusting beasts.

Men always have and always will have the upper hand.


Oh this is really funny, thanks for the laugh. Whoever you end up with is one lucky lady, wink wink, lol.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:47     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack. Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".


Hahahaha! PP is such a dumbass!


I like fat women because they are most capable of bestriding Triceratops.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:44     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:Thank God I graduated from Ivy undergrad and grad school, am attractive, and tall.

I wouldn't let a woman less than an eight even SMD. No joke. You ever see the vast majority of women over 30? They're disgusting beasts.

Men always have and always will have the upper hand.



Lolol. Thanks for the laugh!


Hug your cats extra hard tonight.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:38     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:Thank God I graduated from Ivy undergrad and grad school, am attractive, and tall.

I wouldn't let a woman less than an eight even SMD. No joke. You ever see the vast majority of women over 30? They're disgusting beasts.

Men always have and always will have the upper hand.



Lolol. Thanks for the laugh!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:38     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:I would love to find an economically attractive man, but it definitely is hard to do. As a woman, with a masters degree and working on an MBA, I just want someone with the same drive and the ability to take care of themselves and not be burden to my wallet.


It’s really not that hard, especially if you’re getting your MBA. Just “network” within your grad and undergrad friend groups? That’s always worked well for me and I’ve never slept with anyone who makes less than I do (~$220k).

Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:37     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Thank God I graduated from Ivy undergrad and grad school, am attractive, and tall.

I wouldn't let a woman less than an eight even SMD. No joke. You ever see the vast majority of women over 30? They're disgusting beasts.

Men always have and always will have the upper hand.