Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:If Omar can manage two divorces and three spouses, she will be in the same league as Trump, or Newt Gingrich for that matter. She may have to become a Republican.

Seriously. She clearly has too much time on her hands.

Anonymous wrote:Here's another interesting thought hailing from this timeline:


• In 2011, Omar and Elmi divorced religiously, but remained married legally. In 2012, Omar and Hirsi reconciled and had a third child. In 2017, Omar legally divorced Elmi, and the following year, she legally married Hirsi.


Children born during legal marriage are PRESUMED to be children of the husband, even if the parents were apart at that time. Certainly many sad divorce and child support stories have hung on this. So how is it that Ilhan was able to record Hirsi as the father of her third child if she was legally married to another man at the time? Legally that child would have been attributed to her husband #2 unless he went through an official process of disavowing paternity. What is the story there? And if he DID disavow paternity, as he would have had to in order for that child to call Hirsi a legal father, how does that square with Omar's statement she has never seen him since forever?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, just saying - it would be really easy for her ex husband to make a statement that they aren't related. Just a thought.

Also - and you must understand it's not a quip against her - but in this community, it WAS common to bring family members into the country who weren't who they said they were. Records keeping was never Somali's strong suit to begin with, and people wanted to get away from a dangerous, dead end country. So it was common that a brother, say, who got a refugee visa to the US took his sister's children with him and said they were his. Who was there to say differently? I don't even fault the guy for that.

Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that this sort of thing is not uncommon in the community from which she hails.

I believe her ex-husband has said that and certainly she has. The allegation that she married her brother supposes that a sham marriage was arranged to enable her brother's immigration. Yet he was already a British citizen and would not desperately need to immigrate to the US. Moreover, there is no indication that he ever applied for a green card which, as her spouse, he could have done. Why would he not have done the one thing that the alleged sham marriage was supposed to have achieved?

I don't think there was ever a public statement from her ex, if you saw one, please post a link.

I haven't seen any commentary on his immigration status either, and to be completely honest, I don't know that this sort of info is available on demand to all and sundry. I personally am more sketched out by the fact that they all seemed to live together, and that he was still in Minnesota while she swore she has no idea where he is.

Just after her election when the story about her marriages started making national news, one publication was able to track down Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in the UK. I didn't save a link to the article and Googling anything about this now leads to a mess of right wing sites. So, I haven't been able to find the ar

ticle, but I'll keep trying. But, what is your proof that he was still in Minnesota while she swore she has no idea where he is?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, just saying - it would be really easy for her ex husband to make a statement that they aren't related. Just a thought.

Also - and you must understand it's not a quip against her - but in this community, it WAS common to bring family members into the country who weren't who they said they were. Records keeping was never Somali's strong suit to begin with, and people wanted to get away from a dangerous, dead end country. So it was common that a brother, say, who got a refugee visa to the US took his sister's children with him and said they were his. Who was there to say differently? I don't even fault the guy for that.

Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that this sort of thing is not uncommon in the community from which she hails.

I believe her ex-husband has said that and certainly she has. The allegation that she married her brother supposes that a sham marriage was arranged to enable her brother's immigration. Yet he was already a British citizen and would not desperately need to immigrate to the US. Moreover, there is no indication that he ever applied for a green card which, as her spouse, he could have done. Why would he not have done the one thing that the alleged sham marriage was supposed to have achieved?

I don't think there was ever a public statement from her ex, if you saw one, please post a link.

I haven't seen any commentary on his immigration status either, and to be completely honest, I don't know that this sort of info is available on demand to all and sundry. I personally am more sketched out by the fact that they all seemed to live together, and that he was still in Minnesota while she swore she has no idea where he is.

Just after her election when the story about her marriages started making national news, one publication was able to track down Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in the UK. I didn't save a link to the article and Googling anything about this now leads to a mess of right wing sites. So, I haven't been able to find the article, but I'll keep trying. But, what is your proof that he was still in Minnesota while she swore she has no idea where he is?

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, just saying - it would be really easy for her ex husband to make a statement that they aren't related. Just a thought.

Also - and you must understand it's not a quip against her - but in this community, it WAS common to bring family members into the country who weren't who they said they were. Records keeping was never Somali's strong suit to begin with, and people wanted to get away from a dangerous, dead end country. So it was common that a brother, say, who got a refugee visa to the US took his sister's children with him and said they were his. Who was there to say differently? I don't even fault the guy for that.

Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that this sort of thing is not uncommon in the community from which she hails.

I believe her ex-husband has said that and certainly she has. The allegation that she married her brother supposes that a sham marriage was arranged to enable her brother's immigration. Yet he was already a British citizen and would not desperately need to immigrate to the US. Moreover, there is no indication that he ever applied for a green card which, as her spouse, he could have done. Why would he not have done the one thing that the alleged sham marriage was supposed to have achieved?

I don't think there was ever a public statement from her ex, if you saw one, please post a link.

I haven't seen any commentary on his immigration status either, and to be completely honest, I don't know that this sort of info is available on demand to all and sundry. I personally am more sketched out by the fact that they all seemed to live together, and that he was still in Minnesota while she swore she has no idea where he is.

Anonymous wrote:Also, it's sketchy that there was never a legal marriage with Hirsi at the outset. I had an Islamic ceremony and the first thing they ask you is where is your marriage license. An officiant isn't supposed to conduct a faith marriage without a marriage license in hand.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, just saying - it would be really easy for her ex husband to make a statement that they aren't related. Just a thought.

Also - and you must understand it's not a quip against her - but in this community, it WAS common to bring family members into the country who weren't who they said they were. Records keeping was never Somali's strong suit to begin with, and people wanted to get away from a dangerous, dead end country. So it was common that a brother, say, who got a refugee visa to the US took his sister's children with him and said they were his. Who was there to say differently? I don't even fault the guy for that.

Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that this sort of thing is not uncommon in the community from which she hails.

I believe her ex-husband has said that and certainly she has. The allegation that she married her brother supposes that a sham marriage was arranged to enable her brother's immigration. Yet he was already a British citizen and would not desperately need to immigrate to the US. Moreover, there is no indication that he ever applied for a green card which, as her spouse, he could have done. Why would he not have done the one thing that the alleged sham marriage was supposed to have achieved?

Anonymous wrote:Well, just saying - it would be really easy for her ex husband to make a statement that they aren't related. Just a thought.

Also - and you must understand it's not a quip against her - but in this community, it WAS common to bring family members into the country who weren't who they said they were. Records keeping was never Somali's strong suit to begin with, and people wanted to get away from a dangerous, dead end country. So it was common that a brother, say, who got a refugee visa to the US took his sister's children with him and said they were his. Who was there to say differently? I don't even fault the guy for that.

Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that this sort of thing is not uncommon in the community from which she hails.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:#3 is the strangest of all. Is that not IRS fraud?

While the IRS has a reputation of being a boogie man -- often a well-deserved reputation -- my own personal experience and experiences of others that I know about suggest that the agency is actually pretty easy to work with when you need to make corrections. Omar's lawyers identified the joint-filing issues when they investigated her taxes (Omar was fined for paying these lawyers with campaign contributions). Omar was then able to amend the taxes, removing any concerns about fraud.

Anonymous wrote:#3 is the strangest of all. Is that not IRS fraud?

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here is Omar's statement about her marital history:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Since this statement was written, she legally divorced Ahmed Nur Said Elmi.

This statement illuminates only parts of her marital history. It confuses more than not.

1. She never mentioned she and Hirsi were married in their "faith" tradition, I mean why not just say they had an Islamic marriage.

2. There is substantial evidence that Elmi did not in fact move back to Britain, and that Hirsi and Omar never separated by a wide margin.

3. Joint tax returns while not married.

You have to admit it's not completely straightforward. I mean a person ought to have a simple answer to any of these questions.