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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

Yet no bill passed, and this legal discretion is being done differently. No one is being let in now.
Biden chose to use parole to let people in. Biden chose to use CPBOne to let people in, while Trump has renamed it CPBHome and is using it to send people away.
Biden chose to end Remain in Mexico. Trump reinstated it.
No court told Biden to stop building a wall, including canceling contracts and paying contractors to do nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).

Yes all those Texas Republicans would line up behind closing the border. You live in a fantasy world.

Umm, they did and support Trump doing just that.

No there are thousands of people and goods crossing the board each day. Greg Abbott tried to shut down the border with some scheme and caused huge backups at the border. I guess bribes were paid and Abbott quickly let cross border traffic resume. Though not before a good chunk of traffic started going to other states’ boarding crossings. Though border businesses in Texas still have not recovered from that fiasco.

Abbott put his own police officers at the border when Biden refused to control the flow of people. He installed buoys in the Rio Grande to discourage people from crossing. Last I checked he is a Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to explain exactly why these people are being terrorized and what threat they present to the general public.

https://bsky.app/profile/theswprincess.bsky.social/post/3loqlw7znfk2n

Also, how does this help with inflation or any of the other issues facing our country?

Tens of millions of people here illegally.
When they see people having their assets seized and placed in prison, anyone, not just criminals, and then deported with no luggage,
many of these illegals will choose to leave on their own, getting to leave with luggage and money and not having to be in prison.

Being here illegally is not a crime. I again ask, what harm are these people causing that they deserve to be chased down in the streets by masked men?

Umm... you just admitted it is a crime. Is that you AOC?

Go read the SCOTUS ruling in Arizona v US.

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).

Yes all those Texas Republicans would line up behind closing the border. You live in a fantasy world.

Umm, they did and support Trump doing just that.

No there are thousands of people and goods crossing the board each day. Greg Abbott tried to shut down the border with some scheme and caused huge backups at the border. I guess bribes were paid and Abbott quickly let cross border traffic resume. Though not before a good chunk of traffic started going to other states’ boarding crossings. Though border businesses in Texas still have not recovered from that fiasco.

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

The biggest political failure of Biden's presidential term (other than the 2024 collapse that handed Trump and easy election victory and second term) was using EOs to remove the band aids that were in place to stem the flow of migrants crossing the border very early in his term and then relying on our do-nothing Congress to do something about it. A bill on finally coming to a vote two years later in 2023 is a complete joke and so was a fired politician (Trump) having the power to tank the bill.

A legitimate president (Clinton, Obama, Bush) would have demanded proper legislation be in place before opening the border to a flow of migrants in numbers our system can't handle. That's just basic common sense lacking in awful presidents like Trump and Biden. Don't get me wrong; I'd take anyone with a pulse over Trump, including Biden, but between the border debacle and his gifting Trump the easy 2024 election victory, I get more and more pissed at Biden each day the Trump madness continues.

Biden gave the Republicans everything they wanted and Trump said no. Trump wanted the issue for the election. So let’s not pretend this actually about doing something.

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

The biggest political failure of Biden's presidential term (other than the 2024 collapse that handed Trump and easy election victory and second term) was using EOs to remove the band aids that were in place to stem the flow of migrants crossing the border very early in his term and then relying on our do-nothing Congress to do something about it. A bill on finally coming to a vote two years later in 2023 is a complete joke and so was a fired politician (Trump) having the power to tank the bill.

A legitimate president (Clinton, Obama, Bush) would have demanded proper legislation be in place before opening the border to a flow of migrants in numbers our system can't handle. That's just basic common sense lacking in awful presidents like Trump and Biden. Don't get me wrong; I'd take anyone with a pulse over Trump, including Biden, but between the border debacle and his gifting Trump the easy 2024 election victory, I get more and more pissed at Biden each day the Trump madness continues.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).

Yes all those Texas Republicans would line up behind closing the border. You live in a fantasy world.

Umm, they did and support Trump doing just that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.

They are going after harmless maids and kitchen staff and people who are the lifeblood of many American businesses. And no, I don't think "anyone who makes it into America can stay" -

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.

No, the issue is that if the people being deported are not given their constitutional rights to due process, then NO ONE gets constitutional rights to due process. Personally, I like that provision of the US Constitution and feel it is worth fighting for, even if I don't like some of the people who also receive that treatment. It is part of what actually makes America great and if we lose it, then America is no longer great.

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).

Yes all those Texas Republicans would line up behind closing the border. You live in a fantasy world.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.