Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 00:02     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

So it looks like this is really happening. And the betting markets think feds can expect to be out of work for weeks til Congress gets back.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 23:27     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Trump he should not have reneged on the deal he was offered almost a year ago. His top priority in exchange for something most Americans, including most Republicans support. What happened to the great dealmaker?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-immigration-deal-

LOL at those trying to blame Pelosi and Schumer for this. Trump doesn't have the votes within the GOP to get his wall done. If he did, he could have done it in the last 2 years with the GOP controlled congress.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 23:00     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Trump he should not have reneged on the deal he was offered almost a year ago. His top priority in exchange for something most Americans, including most Republicans support. What happened to the great dealmaker?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-immigration-deal-
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 22:56     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. What a mess this administration and Congress is.

Just days before a deadline to avert a partial government shutdown, President Trump, Democratic leaders and the Republican-controlled Congress are at a stalemate over the president’s treasured border wall. But House Republican leaders are also confronting a more mundane and awkward problem: Their vanquished and retiring members are sick and tired of Washington and don’t want to show up anymore to vote.

Call it the revenge of the lame ducks. Many lawmakers, relegated to cubicles as incoming members take their offices, have been skipping votes in the weeks since House Republicans were swept from power in the midterm elections, and Republican leaders are unsure whether they will ever return.

It is perhaps a fitting end to a Congress that has showcased the untidy politics of the Trump era: Even if the president ultimately embraces a solution that avoids a shutdown, House Republican leaders do not know whether they will have the votes to pass it.

The uncertainty does not end there. With funding for parts of the government like the Department of Homeland Security set to lapse at midnight on Friday, Mr. Trump and top Republicans appear to have no definite plan to keep the doors open. It is clear that as Democrats uniformly oppose the president’s demand for $5 billion for his border wall, any bill that includes that funding cannot pass the Senate, and might face defeat in the House, too.


Yup, the losing are not going to go out of their way to help Trump with his crazy ideas.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 22:47     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall? And now Trump is shutting down the Government over this?
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 22:42     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Sigh. What a mess this administration and Congress is.

Just days before a deadline to avert a partial government shutdown, President Trump, Democratic leaders and the Republican-controlled Congress are at a stalemate over the president’s treasured border wall. But House Republican leaders are also confronting a more mundane and awkward problem: Their vanquished and retiring members are sick and tired of Washington and don’t want to show up anymore to vote.

Call it the revenge of the lame ducks. Many lawmakers, relegated to cubicles as incoming members take their offices, have been skipping votes in the weeks since House Republicans were swept from power in the midterm elections, and Republican leaders are unsure whether they will ever return.

It is perhaps a fitting end to a Congress that has showcased the untidy politics of the Trump era: Even if the president ultimately embraces a solution that avoids a shutdown, House Republican leaders do not know whether they will have the votes to pass it.

The uncertainty does not end there. With funding for parts of the government like the Department of Homeland Security set to lapse at midnight on Friday, Mr. Trump and top Republicans appear to have no definite plan to keep the doors open. It is clear that as Democrats uniformly oppose the president’s demand for $5 billion for his border wall, any bill that includes that funding cannot pass the Senate, and might face defeat in the House, too.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 19:00     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

He doesn't understand how anything works except for maybe his mushroom.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 17:09     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Cheeto to explain why Mexico isn't paying for the wall despite him boasting about it nonstop during the campaign.

What? No..President Trump tweeted that Mexico is paying for the wall with his renegotiation of NAFTA, so it must be true. He's keeping his campaign promise of having Mexico pay for it. But I will admit that I am a bit confused as to why then he needs the US taxpayers to pay for it. I hope another Trump supporter can explain it to me.


This is all bullcrap. Trump is so stupid that he thinks the country he imposes tariffs on, in this case Mexico, actually pays those tariffs. That's why he mistakingly says Mexico is paying for the wall with the renegotiation of NAFTA. What a total moron. We have a President who doesn't understand how tariffs work. That's seriously scary.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 12:53     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

It sounds like they are just going to slink out of town to enjoy Christmas with their families leaving federal workers scrambling to figure out how to pay their bills in January.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 12:43     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Cheeto to explain why Mexico isn't paying for the wall despite him boasting about it nonstop during the campaign.

What? No..President Trump tweeted that Mexico is paying for the wall with his renegotiation of NAFTA, so it must be true. He's keeping his campaign promise of having Mexico pay for it. But I will admit that I am a bit confused as to why then he needs the US taxpayers to pay for it. I hope another Trump supporter can explain it to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 12:41     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Cheeto to explain why Mexico isn't paying for the wall despite him boasting about it nonstop during the campaign.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 11:29     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.


I think you mean tell Ryan to have the House vote on the budget bill.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 11:28     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

They were going to give Trump money in the last negotiations, but he turned it down. Even some Rs don't think the wall is a good idea.

Tell Trump to keep his promise and make MX pay for the wall .. oh wait, he said MX is paying for the wall so we don't need taxpayer money to do it, right? So why is Trump holding the US government hostage over this if he even thinks MX is indeed paying for the wall?


I often stated, "One way or the other, Mexico is going to pay for the Wall." This has never changed. Our new deal with Mexico (and Canada), the USMCA, is so much better than the old, very costly & anti-USA NAFTA deal, that just by the money we save, MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 13, 2018
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 11:25     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.


But wouldn't it be more fun to stick it to the feds who suckle at the trough? Or eat at the teat? Or whatever it is?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2018 11:23     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.