Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s prestigious. And if you’re that nervous about your kids getting in —with good reason, as it’ll just become that much tougher with Amazon coming to town—just recall that NVCC has a guaranteed transfer agreement with UVA.

Anonymous wrote:Admissions percentages have gone down since the 90s. They were in the 30s and 40s. Now in the high 20s.

Chart at the bottom here shows it
https://ias.virginia.edu/university-stats-facts/undergraduate-admissions

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s prestigious. And if you’re that nervous about your kids getting in —with good reason, as it’ll just become that much tougher with Amazon coming to town—just recall that NVCC has a guaranteed transfer agreement with UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed then -- it's better than U. Michigan (for undergrad)? .

I know this is meant humorously (since no one on this thread -- or perhaps entire site -- agrees on anything). But I'm just going to say seriously that they are close enough that there isn't a right answer. I didn't attend either, but know both quite well. I'd probably prefer UVA undergrad in general because it is closer in feel to what I would be looking for. But even with that viewpoint, I have to admit Michigan has great strengths if you are the right type of person. Ann Arbor is considered by many to be a great college town and it has Big 10 sports. As for academics, Ross at Michigan is a match every step of the way for McIntire, the engineering school at Michigan is much more recognized (even though I believe UVA engineering grads are getting good job opportunities these days. If you visit Michigan, you can get a good sense for the STEM powerhouse aspect of the school, particularly at the graduate and research level.

Anyway, people are fighting tooth and nail to claim superiority, but at the undergraduate level 1) you'd have to have a very compelling reason to choose to pay OOS tuition to one if you were in-state for the other and 2) if you were OOS for both, they really are close enough that it comes down to preference and fit.

You seem overinvested for someone who didn’t attend either school.

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed then -- it's better than U. Michigan (for undergrad)? .

I know this is meant humorously (since no one on this thread -- or perhaps entire site -- agrees on anything). But I'm just going to say seriously that they are close enough that there isn't a right answer. I didn't attend either, but know both quite well. I'd probably prefer UVA undergrad in general because it is closer in feel to what I would be looking for. But even with that viewpoint, I have to admit Michigan has great strengths if you are the right type of person. Ann Arbor is considered by many to be a great college town and it has Big 10 sports. As for academics, Ross at Michigan is a match every step of the way for McIntire, the engineering school at Michigan is much more recognized (even though I believe UVA engineering grads are getting good job opportunities these days. If you visit Michigan, you can get a good sense for the STEM powerhouse aspect of the school, particularly at the graduate and research level.

Anyway, people are fighting tooth and nail to claim superiority, but at the undergraduate level 1) you'd have to have a very compelling reason to choose to pay OOS tuition to one if you were in-state for the other and 2) if you were OOS for both, they really are close enough that it comes down to preference and fit.

Anonymous wrote:It, if you have to ask, the answer is “no.” It’s a superb public university.

Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed then -- it's better than U. Michigan (for undergrad)? .

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

Yes, it's true. Top 25% of ENROLLED (that's a lower stat than ADMITTED) 2017 students had a 4.44; median had a 4.29; bottom 25% had a 4.14 high school GPA. ACT top 25% is 33-35. SAT is 1500 for top 25%; 1400 for median and 1320 for bottom 25%. The statistics for the enrolled class of 2018 will be higher. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Statistics for the ADMITTED class of 2022 is an accepted mean SAT of 1,431 and 93 percent ranking in the top 10 percent of their graduating high school class. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds. Go read up on UVA in college confidential, especially the stats on the students who were rejected or put on waitlist. The talent that is turned away is amazing. Va Tech also is going now through a surge of applications but it is behind UVA. It, too, is becoming much more difficult to get into.

Your numbers from SCHEV (which I agree is the most reputable source) aren't quite accurate. The 75 percentile for ENROLLED students is 1480, not 1500, and the 75th ACT composite is 33 -- not 35. The 25/75 range for the the SAT is 1320 to 1480 and the ACT is 29-33.

By comparison, the ranges for 2008 were 1240 to 1420.

No, I am correct, the SCHEV report itself has a typo. Go back to the SCHEV report and check. You will see the total should be 1500, not 1480.

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Anonymous wrote:If there is 22 pages discussing this question ... The answer is an obvious no.

+1000.

Funny as can be!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

Yes, it's true. Top 25% of ENROLLED (that's a lower stat than ADMITTED) 2017 students had a 4.44; median had a 4.29; bottom 25% had a 4.14 high school GPA. ACT top 25% is 33-35. SAT is 1500 for top 25%; 1400 for median and 1320 for bottom 25%. The statistics for the enrolled class of 2018 will be higher. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Statistics for the ADMITTED class of 2022 is an accepted mean SAT of 1,431 and 93 percent ranking in the top 10 percent of their graduating high school class. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds. Go read up on UVA in college confidential, especially the stats on the students who were rejected or put on waitlist. The talent that is turned away is amazing. Va Tech also is going now through a surge of applications but it is behind UVA. It, too, is becoming much more difficult to get into.

Your numbers from SCHEV (which I agree is the most reputable source) aren't quite accurate. The 75 percentile for ENROLLED students is 1480, not 1500, and the 75th ACT composite is 33 -- not 35. The 25/75 range for the the SAT is 1320 to 1480 and the ACT is 29-33.

By comparison, the ranges for 2008 were 1240 to 1420.