Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
The school board told the county board point-blank in a televised work session that they should look at raising property taxes to help pay for school projects. The county board did not respond, then or afterward. The school board asked the county board explicitly for a greater share of the bonding capacity, the county board (via the county manager) told them no. The school board has basically no leverage with the county board, if we want the county board to change their tune, we have to do the work because we are the ones who can vote them out if we don't agree with their priorities.
Let's take it to the County Board then. Vihstadt probably doesn't want to be the sacrificial lamb in November if they don't address this...
Oh god, please start paying attention to what's going on before you make suggestions like this. If anyone from the county board was on APS's side this past spring, it was Vihstadt. If you vote him out, things will only get worse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Katie Cristol is a problem. She needs to go. Sadly, she was just elected. She has gone on record saying that if Arlignton received an unexpected windfall, she would not give any more to the schools. I’m sure it’s a tune the boomers love to hear, but she’s bad news for people who hope to eventually send kids to school in Arlington.
I agree she is a big part of the problem. Libby Garvey is as well, she's adamantly opposed to increasing school capacity.
Anonymous wrote:Ditto. I do not understand her at all. She's big on making childcare affordable -- which would make Arlington more attractive to FAMILIES. But doesn't care about properly funding schools for those families? Doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Katie Cristol is a problem. She needs to go. Sadly, she was just elected. She has gone on record saying that if Arlignton received an unexpected windfall, she would not give any more to the schools. I’m sure it’s a tune the boomers love to hear, but she’s bad news for people who hope to eventually send kids to school in Arlington.
I agree she is a big part of the problem. Libby Garvey is as well, she's adamantly opposed to increasing school capacity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Katie Cristol is a problem. She needs to go. Sadly, she was just elected. She has gone on record saying that if Arlignton received an unexpected windfall, she would not give any more to the schools. I’m sure it’s a tune the boomers love to hear, but she’s bad news for people who hope to eventually send kids to school in Arlington.
Ditto. I do not understand her at all. She's big on making childcare affordable -- which would make Arlington more attractive to FAMILIES. But doesn't care about properly funding schools for those families? Doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous wrote:Katie Cristol is a problem. She needs to go. Sadly, she was just elected. She has gone on record saying that if Arlignton received an unexpected windfall, she would not give any more to the schools. I’m sure it’s a tune the boomers love to hear, but she’s bad news for people who hope to eventually send kids to school in Arlington.
Anonymous wrote:Katie Cristol is a problem. She needs to go. Sadly, she was just elected. She has gone on record saying that if Arlignton received an unexpected windfall, she would not give any more to the schools. I’m sure it’s a tune the boomers love to hear, but she’s bad news for people who hope to eventually send kids to school in Arlington.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
The school board told the county board point-blank in a televised work session that they should look at raising property taxes to help pay for school projects. The county board did not respond, then or afterward. The school board asked the county board explicitly for a greater share of the bonding capacity, the county board (via the county manager) told them no. The school board has basically no leverage with the county board, if we want the county board to change their tune, we have to do the work because we are the ones who can vote them out if we don't agree with their priorities.
Let's take it to the County Board then. Vihstadt probably doesn't want to be the sacrificial lamb in November if they don't address this...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
The school board told the county board point-blank in a televised work session that they should look at raising property taxes to help pay for school projects. The county board did not respond, then or afterward. The school board asked the county board explicitly for a greater share of the bonding capacity, the county board (via the county manager) told them no. The school board has basically no leverage with the county board, if we want the county board to change their tune, we have to do the work because we are the ones who can vote them out if we don't agree with their priorities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
Sorry, hard pass on raising taxes. We don't have a revenue problem in Arlington. We have a spending prioritization problem. If you really insist in increasing revenues, let's stop artificially depressing our tax base by subsidizing affordable housing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
Sorry, hard pass on raising taxes. We don't have a revenue problem in Arlington. We have a spending prioritization problem. If you really insist in increasing revenues, let's stop artificially depressing our tax base by subsidizing affordable housing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.
We can go up - there is still a little more room even if we stick to the arbitrary 10%.
And while we are at it - let's raise property taxes to help offset debt. We already pay a relatively low amount (in terms of rate and $ amounts) compared to many other areas with excellent schools.
If we want to prioritize schools there are ways to do that. The county board isn't doing that. And the school board isn't pushing for it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Voters would happily pay for new schools over aquatic centers and $1M bus stops.
Not every voter would rather that money go to schools than the aquatic center. Especially not senior citizens who are more concerned with their own amenities than with schools, and who turn out to vote in far greater numbers than parents of school-aged children. Million dollar bus stops have already been nixed.
Let's give the voters a chance to voice their opinion. Put to a vote, don't make decisions based on perceived fears.
Put what to a vote? Bonds aren’t either/or.
Put up a bond for school projects.
They are doing that. They do it every two years.
But they are not asking for everything we need.
1. They can’t do that without blowing our credit rating out of the water.
2. Because of 1, the county board won’t approve it, and they have ultimate say in how much of a bond will be put up for schools.
3. You think voters wouldn’t react to a half billion dollar school bond referendum? If the bond gets voted down, that means no additional bond money for two years, and every project relying on that money as well as everything planned for after it gets set back two years. That includes Reed, the CC high school, the Ed Center renovation, the Arlington Tech expansion, the middle school expansion, the new elementary school for 2029, and a bunch of MC/MM. That’s a pretty big risk to take just to figure out how far the voters can be pushed.
Lots of fear talking.
Substantive response?
Sorry. Too many glasses of wine to do any kind of sensitivity analysis around bonds/budgets/etc. Happy to look at numbers in the morning.
But you haven’t provided any real #s either around credit rating, etc. So if you’d prefer to provide a more substantial argument yourself — instead of just sharing your fears — we can discuss that.
If you need me to walk you through the debt ratio and debt service numbers, you haven’t been paying attention. If you need me to pull up the videos and articles where the county says APS isn’t getting more of debt ratio, you haven’t been paying attention. I’m over wasting time on people who don’t put any effort into following these issues and then want their opinions treated as equally valuable to everyone else’s. They’re not.