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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Codependent. Dime a dozen.

Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it's weird the wife was named after a home appliance?

I have never been able to really read about this or consider this whole drama without thinking: Wtf is this woman named after a refrigerator?

Is she an heir to Jenn-air household appliances or did her parents just love their kitchen appliances that much?

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

I have no idea what that pp is talking about.

Even my 85 year old illiterate grandmother, who married at 18 and went on to have 12 children, had a lot going for her besides her marriage. She bought and sold anything she could get her hands on. She had church, choir, and several meeting groups that she was comitted to. She had an extended family that she loved and cared for and vice versa.

My grandfather was a successful man and a very present father, but my grandmother's identity was obviously separate from his. These women with identities that are primarily dependent on their marriages must be very rare because I don't know any of them.

Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

+1 “These women” that came before are precisely the reason younger women have a seat at the table and the rights they do now. What a bunch of ungrateful douches.

You completely missed the point. Of course older women are educated and have careers. My 84 y/o mom had me, her first, at 40 and has a PhD in organic chemistry. I was talking about and replying to the PP who said that most of the women identify as wives only and their marriage is their entire soul, so it's understandable when they snap and kill the AP and themselves, as there is nothing else important for them outside their marriage. This is unthinkable for someone 40 or younger. If there are any women left who define themselves by their marital status only, they are older women, especially those who married young, like the wife in this story.

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Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

+1 “These women” that came before are precisely the reason younger women have a seat at the table and the rights they do now. What a bunch of ungrateful douches.

Anonymous wrote:^wtf are you talking about? I’m 52 and have a career in STEM and all my female friends are lawyers, doctors, IT consultants, etc.

My mother worked too and told us to always have our own income.

There was no need to work given what the men make, but we all kept it because we liked what we did and wanted our own $/retirement and identity.

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Anonymous wrote:^ you need to read more critically. No one is justifying murder. Lots of people are recognizing that the wife was abused (gaslit, etc) and had a breakdown as a result, and was obviously (and understandably) not stable at the end.

And that if you want to greatly reduce your chances of a crazy person going after you or your family, don’t f@“”ck and maintain a relationship with somebody that’s married. Pretty simple.

We have different takes on this. For me the lesson is that your marriage should not be the only thing that you have going for you. You need close friends and family. You need to build a world outside your marriage. You cannot own a human being. If someone does not want to be married to you move on. She is dead and buried. And he is living his life, putting his ugly face out there, using her name to seek attention.

These things are consolations and secondary. For most women, their marriage is the single most life-determining thing there is, and the original nuclear family they created and gave birth to is not replaceable like a new job or career bump. It is their soul.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what a scorned wife and gun can do. Heads up mistresses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/25/affair-leads-to-murder-suicide-on-phillys-main-line-leaving-two-successful-women-dead-police-say/?utm_term=.ff05a73bbdc5

No, this is what an untreated, selfish, mentally ill person can do. No wonder her husband was cheating on her.

So word to the wise, beautiful, successful, mentally stable women who commit adultery....think twice before engaging in adulterous affairs.

Nobody mentally healthy is participating in affairs. There are issues if you are screwing someone that is married.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what a scorned wife and gun can do. Heads up mistresses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/25/affair-leads-to-murder-suicide-on-phillys-main-line-leaving-two-successful-women-dead-police-say/?utm_term=.ff05a73bbdc5

No, this is what an untreated, selfish, mentally ill person can do. No wonder her husband was cheating on her.

So word to the wise, beautiful, successful, mentally stable women who commit adultery....think twice before engaging in adulterous affairs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what a scorned wife and gun can do. Heads up mistresses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/25/affair-leads-to-murder-suicide-on-phillys-main-line-leaving-two-successful-women-dead-police-say/?utm_term=.ff05a73bbdc5

No, this is what an untreated, selfish, mentally ill person can do. No wonder her husband was cheating on her.

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Anonymous wrote:AP has weird eyebrows.

Agreed. Color me shamelessly shallow, but that was my first thought. She had puffy, heavy eye lids. Cute in a country simple way.

Looks mean nothing here. M was "cute" on the outside, but ugly on the inside which really counts in life. Meredith had good jobs, but too bad she couldn't get her personal life in order. At the end of the day all three sunk very low, and NONE of this should have happened.