Anonymous wrote:Yes they do, but not all that much.

English, science and social studies classes mostly serving SES Latino kids who struggle with English don't meet the needs of advanced learners. Asian "tiger parents" may be disliked, even despised, on these threads, but I'd give a lot to have a boatload of their kids at DCI.

Anonymous wrote:Much indignation over tone and unpleasantness on the part of native speakers who vote with their feet while real and pressing problems stare us in the face. Best to see the forest for the trees and direct energies toward pushing DCPC to get its act together where DCI goes. Summarizing the best post on this thread, back 15 pages:

There are 3 sets of problems at DCI:

1- The school admin and teachers are not sufficiently committed to demanding appropriate non-disruptive behavior in the classroom. Motivated kids are not able to learn because the classroom has many kids who are not interested in learning and are disruptive, and are not controlled by staff. Some parents on this thread roll their eyes and find this absolutely normal, and consider that this is what diversity is. That is a problem.
2- There is no tracking in non-language subjects, which makes absolutely no sense at all, and is harmful to kids of all levels.
3- There are many students who show up in high school after nine years of language immersion and don't know how to speak the language. The immersion elementary and middle schools did not do an adequate job making their students fluent in the larger languages.

Anonymous wrote:NP: There's just something about the tone of some of the YY critics that is so obviously about more than just asking questions about the school or naming concerns/criticisms. Some "YY kids can't speak Mandarin" posters sound like they really have something to prove, really want to convince the world that YY is no good.

This is not to say there aren't several really valid criticisms of YY or places YY could really improve. And there's nothing wrong with naming those concerns, wherever you're viewing them from.

But the whole "I can't let it go and must respond to every single positive point with negatives, some of which make no sense" and the added bizarre and ludicrous "YY parents are jealous of American-born Chinese parents" all adds up to the conclusion: some people need healthier hobbies than carrying a grudge for a school your kids haven't attended in years (if they ever attended it).

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, some people here need healthier hobbies, particularly you, master of thin-skinned defensiveness and thinly veiled resentment. There's something about your tone that belies real concern about how well your child(ren) actually speak Chinese after years of immersion study.

Please get more serious about the Mandarin already or give it a rest.

I'm the PP you're talking to, you're funny! Can't tell if you're serious or not, but since that was my 1st post in this thread and I'm not concerned about my kids' Chinese (since they don't speak it at all), you seem to be confusing me with someone else. I'm just reporting on my takeaways after reading a few of the 24 pages of crankiness that's here. But you are funny, serious or not, so thank you!

Anonymous wrote:Agree, some people here need healthier hobbies, particularly you, master of thin-skinned defensiveness and thinly veiled resentment. There's something about your tone that belies real concern about how well your child(ren) actually speak Chinese after years of immersion study.

Please get more serious about the Mandarin already or give it a rest.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't sound like you're read through most of the posts.

There were a bunch suggesting how YY could actually move to raise standards for Chinese teaching (beyond adding full immersion Pres3 4 years ago) and learning, especially by introducing and upholding standards for speaking.

It's good that YY has dropped to #5 in WL length among charters,down from #2 a few years ago. More DC parents drawn to language immersion are starting to question the way things work there.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't sound like you're read through most of the posts.

There were a bunch suggesting how YY could actually move to raise standards for Chinese teaching (beyond adding full immersion Pres3 4 years ago) and learning, especially by introducing and upholding standards for speaking.

It's good that YY has dropped to #5 in WL length among charters,down from #2 a few years ago. More DC parents drawn to language immersion are starting to question the way things work there.

Anonymous wrote:You sound like the bitter one. Commentators have offered constructive criticism and thoughtful and reasonable comments on this thread. If you're that unhappy with certain posters, report them to Jeff or, better yet, stay off YY threads on DCUM.