Anonymous wrote:^^No, you need to look up the definition of neighborhood.

Semantics aren’t going to win this argument.

^^No, you need to look up the definition of neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read through all of the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something, but for those who state that diversity is their main goal - do you think that bussing kids from one end of the county to the other, the result being only a slight change in diversity is more important than having kids bussed out of their neighborhoods and schools that they can walk to? It's fine if that is the thought, I'm just wondering if it is.

Over a third of kids are bussed already due to choice schools, including lots of kids who presumably could be walking to neighborhood schools. Arlingtonians are fine with bussing kids all over the county.

I'm assuming that parents who bus their kids to choice schools are happy to do so because they think their child will be getting something preferable at the choice school, be it diversity, special focus, higher quality, etc. That doesn't mean people will be happy to bus them further away if it means their child either won't be getting anything better, or may be getting something worse than their neighborhood school.

Ah, but it will be their neighborhood school.

How do you figure that? There’s a difference between a neighborhood school and an assigned school.

Potato potato

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read through all of the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something, but for those who state that diversity is their main goal - do you think that bussing kids from one end of the county to the other, the result being only a slight change in diversity is more important than having kids bussed out of their neighborhoods and schools that they can walk to? It's fine if that is the thought, I'm just wondering if it is.

Over a third of kids are bussed already due to choice schools, including lots of kids who presumably could be walking to neighborhood schools. Arlingtonians are fine with bussing kids all over the county.

I'm assuming that parents who bus their kids to choice schools are happy to do so because they think their child will be getting something preferable at the choice school, be it diversity, special focus, higher quality, etc. That doesn't mean people will be happy to bus them further away if it means their child either won't be getting anything better, or may be getting something worse than their neighborhood school.

Ah, but it will be their neighborhood school.

How do you figure that? There’s a difference between a neighborhood school and an assigned school.

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read through all of the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something, but for those who state that diversity is their main goal - do you think that bussing kids from one end of the county to the other, the result being only a slight change in diversity is more important than having kids bussed out of their neighborhoods and schools that they can walk to? It's fine if that is the thought, I'm just wondering if it is.

Over a third of kids are bussed already due to choice schools, including lots of kids who presumably could be walking to neighborhood schools. Arlingtonians are fine with bussing kids all over the county.

Really? Greater than 33% of APS students go to a choice school???

No, I misspoke. About 20 percent go to choice schools, one out of five. You can look at the transfer report yourself. 300 kids go to Drew Montessori, 650 to Science Focus, 500 to ATS, 700 to Claremont, 300 to Key....not all would be bused, but that's 2,400 elementary students out of 13,000 elementary students at choice schools. 3,400 total kids transfer to other elementaries. Numbers are about the same for middle and high schools.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Transfer-Report-2016-17.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry people.
But no. Your walk score isn’t more important than Kenmore or TJ being pushed over 50% Farms.
Seriously get over yourselves.

Great! Pull some kids from 22207.

Heck, those 22207 kids should be jumping at the chance, given how awesome Kenmore is.

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read through all of the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something, but for those who state that diversity is their main goal - do you think that bussing kids from one end of the county to the other, the result being only a slight change in diversity is more important than having kids bussed out of their neighborhoods and schools that they can walk to? It's fine if that is the thought, I'm just wondering if it is.

Over a third of kids are bussed already due to choice schools, including lots of kids who presumably could be walking to neighborhood schools. Arlingtonians are fine with bussing kids all over the county.

I'm assuming that parents who bus their kids to choice schools are happy to do so because they think their child will be getting something preferable at the choice school, be it diversity, special focus, higher quality, etc. That doesn't mean people will be happy to bus them further away if it means their child either won't be getting anything better, or may be getting something worse than their neighborhood school.

Ah, but it will be their neighborhood school.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry people.
But no. Your walk score isn’t more important than Kenmore or TJ being pushed over 50% Farms.
Seriously get over yourselves.

Great! Pull some kids from 22207.

plan Z will reveal itself only the week before the final vote and will be the ill conceived machinations of APS staff as instructed by ( rolling 5 sided school board die)
Drum roll please...
WILD CARD! So... O’Grady?

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read through all of the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something, but for those who state that diversity is their main goal - do you think that bussing kids from one end of the county to the other, the result being only a slight change in diversity is more important than having kids bussed out of their neighborhoods and schools that they can walk to? It's fine if that is the thought, I'm just wondering if it is.

Over a third of kids are bussed already due to choice schools, including lots of kids who presumably could be walking to neighborhood schools. Arlingtonians are fine with bussing kids all over the county.

I'm assuming that parents who bus their kids to choice schools are happy to do so because they think their child will be getting something preferable at the choice school, be it diversity, special focus, higher quality, etc. That doesn't mean people will be happy to bus them further away if it means their child either won't be getting anything better, or may be getting something worse than their neighborhood school.

Anonymous wrote:I cannot wait for plan z to come out of the closet, where it has been patiently waiting!

But which of the SB members will trot it out this time?

I cannot wait for plan z to come out of the closet, where it has been patiently waiting!

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I’m with pp. Mi Voz Cuenta. Sorry you don’t like it.

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This comment is misplaced. Mi Voz Cuenta was a group of APAH and VOICE fronted families from S. Arlington who were advocating FOR their continued segregation in S. Arlington. These are the Nancy Van Doren/Tania Talento devotees who want to keep all the poor immigrant families together in S. Arlington. Not the people advocating for appropriately dispersed affordable housing.
Felt the need to correct that.



Nothing needed to be corrected. Plenty of S Arlington residents don’t want CARD supporters pretending that they speak on behalf of all S Arlingtonians. Believe it or not, there are people throughout the county who value walkability. As much as some people love to spin it as a “racist” value.

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Walkability is not the issue, and it never was. Housing could be dispersed throughout the County and people could still walk to school. In fact, it'd be EASIER to have walkability and diversity for everyone if CARD was successful. Mi Voz Cuenta wasn't about walkability. It was about keeping all the affordable housing in S. Arlington. Keeping poor immigrants all together in one community and then calling the CARD supporters racist. It was charming.

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I’m with pp. Mi Voz Cuenta. Sorry you don’t like it.

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This comment is misplaced. Mi Voz Cuenta was a group of APAH and VOICE fronted families from S. Arlington who were advocating FOR their continued segregation in S. Arlington. These are the Nancy Van Doren/Tania Talento devotees who want to keep all the poor immigrant families together in S. Arlington. Not the people advocating for appropriately dispersed affordable housing.
Felt the need to correct that.

Nothing needed to be corrected. Plenty of S Arlington residents don’t want CARD supporters pretending that they speak on behalf of all S Arlingtonians. Believe it or not, there are people throughout the county who value walkability. As much as some people love to spin it as a “racist” value.

Thanks for playing, but no. With the exception literally a half dozen crack pots living in Barcroft, you are very misinformed. The new south Arlington home owning middle class does not want more segregation. Unfortunately many are very good people who assume the county has their best interests in mind. They’ll learn.

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Anonymous wrote:South Arlington parent here with a kid who is zoned for Kenmore in the next couple years. If APS will allow it, I will happily take my kid to any school but Kenmore. I don't need a bus. APS just doesn't allow it.

Why? If you are using GS scores or other people's stories, that's silly. If you have a prior experience with the school, that would be different. PP who sends her child to Kenmore instead of Williamsburg here. Kenmore teachers have been supremely responsive, DD seems to be happy and has made some new friends, and she's enjoying her small classes. So far, admittedly only a month in, I've been very impressed

Curious if you don't take much shrift in scores or other parents persepctive why you made the effort to go to kenmore? Why not just go to neighborhood school?

Scores are only helpful to a point, and every kid's experience is different. We/She chose Kenmore because our first neighborhood school wasn't a good fit for her - all the friends she knew would be doing Spanish Immersion and she wasn't. Gunston is also overcrowded and we knew we would likely be moving further away from Gunston. On the flip side, DD had been at Kenmore for dance recitals and such in the past and we all were impressed with facilities. We took her with us to the Kenmore info night presentation, and she was very excited about the STEAM program. Her bff's also transferred from their over-crowded schools to go to Kenmore. The lack of over-crowding relative to Williamsburg was also important to me.