Anonymous wrote:Enough discussion of this. Everyone needs to start reading up and thinking about the settlement Trump agreed to pay out on the fraudulent Trump university case. $25 million! He pretty much admitted he was guilty of fraud by settling for that much.

This is much more disturbing than his ridiculous Hamilton tweets.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, this a cast of a show that people pay over $1000 a seat for the show. Not exactly the people that voted for Trump. And you wonder why your candidate lost the election.

Actually, Trump voters are actually wealthier than Democratic voters. I was surprised too, but this is apparently the case.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls

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Anonymous wrote:Last time I checked, most, if not all of the cast of Hamilton are Americans. They have a right to express their opinions. How is freedom of speech and an expression that the newly elected vice-president should learn from the lessons of the play something that should be stifled?

The fact is that the cast represents latinos, gays, african-americans, jews, muslims etc who are all very nervous about the past actions of senior administration officials.

Are you suggesting that their right to free expression should be suppressed? One of the cast members is an openly gay man with HIV. According to Pence, he should be given mandatory conversion treatment.

Is that an American value?

Just because they had a right to do this does not mean that it was appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, this a cast of a show that people pay over $1000 a seat for the show. Not exactly the people that voted for Trump. And you wonder why your candidate lost the election.

Actually, Trump voters are actually wealthier than Democratic voters. I was surprised too, but this is apparently the case.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

Which part of that message was partisan? That was a direct statement of their feelings and fears to the man who has been elected vice president.

They didn't challenge his legitimacy. They didn't refuse to perform while he was in the audience.

They did their job, and at the end of the show they used their opportunity to ask him to make sure the administration he is a part of represents them, as well.

Sorry, completely inappropriate. The man was just trying to have a pleasant evening out with his family, and he has to be subjected to that.

Subjected to what, a brief speech from the cast of a musical? How painful that must have been for him. Let's all pray that he is able to heal from this and move on.

its bizarre and rude. Time and place. Time and place.

Trump took rudeness and crudeness to new heights and yet made it to the WH. To me, that says volumes especially those who put him there and rally behavior. So your comments about boorish behavior being bizarre and rude means nothing.

Anonymous wrote:Last time I checked, most, if not all of the cast of Hamilton are Americans. They have a right to express their opinions. How is freedom of speech and an expression that the newly elected vice-president should learn from the lessons of the play something that should be stifled?

The fact is that the cast represents latinos, gays, african-americans, jews, muslims etc who are all very nervous about the past actions of senior administration officials.

Are you suggesting that their right to free expression should be suppressed? One of the cast members is an openly gay man with HIV. According to Pence, he should be given mandatory conversion treatment.

Is that an American value?

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Anonymous wrote:It's amusing that celebrities actually think that intelligent person gives two shits about their political views.

I don't even understand why Pence would want to see a show that so vehemently disagrees with his personal view of the world. Did he know there were GAY people in the show?

Huh. Makes one wonder if perhaps the media reporting is full of crap

Well, no. Pence doesn't deny his anti-gay policy proposals as governor. It's all public record and he stands by it. Makes me thing you're full of crap.

Snopes doesn't agree with you re: conversion therapy. Someone here posted a link to it claiming that he did and clearly didn't read the Snopes headline. LOL

Here is Mike Pence's Agenda for the 107th Congress: http://web.archive.org/web/20010408125427/http://mikepence.com/issues.html

In the "Strengthening the American Family" section, you will find the following words:

"Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, this a cast of a show that people pay over $1000 a seat for the show. Not exactly the people that voted for Trump. And you wonder why your candidate lost the election.

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He may, but if he does, then why does he authorize legislation for conversion therapy? That is plain sick.

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Too bad. It's a show about politics performed by people Pence would send to electroshock therapy to "convert."

If he can't stand the heat, he should get out of the kitchen.

WHAT'S TRUE: Mike Pence once supported the use of federal funding to treat people "seeking to change their sexual behavior."

WHAT'S FALSE: Pence never stated that he supported the use of electric shocks or "gay conversion" therapy.

In October 2016, an image appeared on social media accusing Indiana's governor (and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's running mate) Mike Pence of supporting "gay conversion" therapy, particularly the use of electric shocks as part of the practice.

The allegation dates back to 2000, when Pence was running for Congress. His campaign web site at the time touted his call to add a stipulation to the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, a 1990 law providing funding for HIV/AIDS treatment for patients living with the disease lacking either the income or the necessary insurance to pay for it on their own:

Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus. Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.

Although he didn't say so outright, the position has been widely interpreted as signaling Pence's support for "gay conversion" therapy, which seeks to "cure" patients of being attracted to members of the same sex.

Anonymous wrote:POETUS has tweeted about Hamilton again this morning.

I suppose he REALLY doesn't want toe Sunday morning shows to talk about his $25 Million fraud settlement, his off the wall ridiculous appointments and the crumbling support he is experiencing on social media.

Anonymous wrote:Intermission here at the Fairfax Symohony. Evening began with National Anthem followed by brilliant pianist joining orchestra for Brahms piano concerto no 1 in D minor, op 15. No political statements yet but I have my eye on the bassoonist.