Anonymous wrote:I started this thread almost 2 years ago. I stopped because it got too depressing to spend time every day writing about dead babies. Perhaps I should start again. Maybe we can make something happen.

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, these are NOT accidents. When we allow people to get away with their kids getting hold of loaded weapons, we are Condoning stupidity.

These people need to be charged. Otherwise, the carnage continues

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Anonymous wrote:The hard on for guns in this country is pathetic. A bunch of paranoid, wannabe cowboys. I get of you live in North Dakota and want to hunt an elk or whatever with a rifle (black powder musket if you want to do it like our fore fathers), but generally handguns serve no purpose other than killing humans. It's such a sad state of affairs. We live in a culture than glorifies ignorance and violence. Revels in it. Viewers are more sheltered from a naked breast on tv than Schwarzenegger blasting hundred of people away. I guess we're a culture of roughly 50% low brow WWF fans. Maybe the movie Idiocracy was actually a documentary. Flame away. I welcome it. You and your guns are the problem, not me. I wish I was living back in Sydney, Australia and not with so many people who witness tragedy every day, but are either too f*cking myopic or filled with cognitive dissonance to do anything about it. F*ck you for putting our children at risk for your paranoia.

Your (silly, cliched, hyperbolic, ignorant, stereotypical, uninformed) opinion has been noted.

Thanks.

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Same rules should apply for all irresponsible behavior of adults. Potential death can result of children who get access to you car, your meds, your alcohol, your kitchen knives, your toxic cleaning supplies.

Let's be honest here.

These are highly regulated and controlled. Let's apply the same rules to guns.

Let me know when you need a background check or a car purchase, or register your bottle of Vodka. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have background checks or registration of guns, but comments like yours are plain silly and does not help move the conversation forward.

Let's see....
1. You need to register your car.
2. Pay taxes on your car.
3. Take a driving test.
4. Have a valid license.
5. Have car insurance.
6. Get an rx from a doctor.
7. Rxs are researched and impact on health is evaluated.
8. Drinking age is 21.

I think each regulation here may be beneficial for guns.

You never want to move the conversation forward so no need to discuss any of this with you.

1. There is no federal law that says a vehicle must be registered. Registration requirement is by state, and most states have conditions under which a vehicle is not required to be registered.
2. You pay taxes on guns too.
3. There is no federal law requiring a driving test. Driving test laws vary state by state. If you drive only on private land, you don't need a license, and therefore no test. Most states require a safety class/test for open and/or concealed carry firearms permits.
4. See #3
5. Lawfully unregistered vehicles don't need insurance.
6. OTC medicine does not, and many previously prescription-only drugs have become OTC. Similarly, full auto weapons as well as certain types of accessories such as a silencer are heavily regulated.
7. There are laws regarding merchandise safety. Unsafe guns are subject to recall.
8. Federal law for sale of rifles is 18 years old, and sale of handguns is 21 years old. There is no age limit to operate a firearm.

These things are a lot more similar than you think. We own multiple guns, all of which are locked in safes, with the magazines and ammo locked in a different safe. The first thing I did before buying a gun was to spend $300 on a safety class. I believe in universal background checks and that all private party sales should be processed through a local dealer that can do FFL transfers. I support "common sense gun legislation" but it becomes hard to have a meaningful discussion when you do not understand what laws are already in place.

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Anonymous wrote:
Same rules should apply for all irresponsible behavior of adults. Potential death can result of children who get access to you car, your meds, your alcohol, your kitchen knives, your toxic cleaning supplies.

Let's be honest here.

These are highly regulated and controlled. Let's apply the same rules to guns.

Let me know when you need a background check or a car purchase, or register your bottle of Vodka. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have background checks or registration of guns, but comments like yours are plain silly and does not help move the conversation forward.

Let's see....
1. You need to register your car.
2. Pay taxes on your car.
3. Take a driving test.
4. Have a valid license.
5. Have car insurance.
6. Get an rx from a doctor.
7. Rxs are researched and impact on health is evaluated.
8. Drinking age is 21.

I think each regulation here may be beneficial for guns.

You never want to move the conversation forward so no need to discuss any of this with you.

1. There is no federal law that says a vehicle must be registered. Registration requirement is by state, and most states have conditions under which a vehicle is not required to be registered.
2. You pay taxes on guns too.
3. There is no federal law requiring a driving test. Driving test laws vary state by state. If you drive only on private land, you don't need a license, and therefore no test. Most states require a safety class/test for open and/or concealed carry firearms permits.
4. See #3
5. Lawfully unregistered vehicles don't need insurance.
6. OTC medicine does not, and many previously prescription-only drugs have become OTC. Similarly, full auto weapons as well as certain types of accessories such as a silencer are heavily regulated.
7. There are laws regarding merchandise safety. Unsafe guns are subject to recall.
8. Federal law for sale of rifles is 18 years old, and sale of handguns is 21 years old. There is no age limit to operate a firearm.

These things are a lot more similar than you think. We own multiple guns, all of which are locked in safes, with the magazines and ammo locked in a different safe. The first thing I did before buying a gun was to spend $300 on a safety class. I believe in universal background checks and that all private party sales should be processed through a local dealer that can do FFL transfers. I support "common sense gun legislation" but it becomes hard to have a meaningful discussion when you do not understand what laws are already in place.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Same rules should apply for all irresponsible behavior of adults. Potential death can result of children who get access to you car, your meds, your alcohol, your kitchen knives, your toxic cleaning supplies.

Let's be honest here.

These are highly regulated and controlled. Let's apply the same rules to guns.

Let me know when you need a background check or a car purchase, or register your bottle of Vodka. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have background checks or registration of guns, but comments like yours are plain silly and does not help move the conversation forward.

Let's see....
1. You need to register your car.
2. Pay taxes on your car.
3. Take a driving test.
4. Have a valid license.
5. Have car insurance.
6. Get an rx from a doctor.
7. Rxs are researched and impact on health is evaluated.
8. Drinking age is 21.

I think each regulation here may be beneficial for guns.

You never want to move the conversation forward so no need to discuss any of this with you.