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Anonymous wrote:Its true a lot of people make a living addressing these kinds of issues (you are not a volunteer correct?)

The homeless is a huge industry and the advocates and policy people who preach about what we should do obviously have a vested interest in keeping their jobs.

More importantly, how do the Russians feel about a homeless shelter across from their compound?

lol Maybe the Russians will take care of it.

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Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Please provide data for your adamant statementsbb

I thought I did when I stated that we have homeless shelters and housing programs in BETHESDA...ever heard of it? It's much nicer than the area we're discussing on Wisconsin, with high end housing, top notch schools, etc.

Much nicer? Check your price per square foot comps. A half-mile is much much different than one to four or five doors down. There is a reason this lot is not zoned for this type of building. There was no bidding process on this project. The purchaser of the lot wanted to build a big development, but couldn't due to zoning. Now he can. When the city stops leasing the property from him, he will convert it to apartments and will have successfully skirted the zoning laws. For those of you who say you live in the neighborhood, if you live in Glover Park, you do not. Yes, there will be support for a family shelter from the neighborhood, but only for one that zoning allows.

Sigh.

Yes, pp. We all realize that you paid a ridiculous premium to live in that part of DC...but overpaying for a hood with so-so schools just to be in DC doesn't make the area better than Bethesda. In fact, lots of people flee the city for the better schools and more kid-friendly environs of the burbs.

But let's not get sidetracked.

The point is that MoCo has done a superior job of dispersing housing programs across the county as opposed to segregating homeless people in bad areas like DC has. But Bowser has perhaps some of the best homeless experts on her team, and they are implementing a promising plan based on best practices. If you could see beyond your initial fear of the unknown and read the data, you'd understand that this makes sense and it won't impact your life, home value, or test scores. Take a deep breath...it's going to be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither will the case managers and providers. They are employable and can find other jobs. It is people like the advocates and policy people who will lose their jobs. A OP said she has spent her career in homeless advocacy. What will she do with that? And why has she done such a poor job?

I really thought I'd seen everything. Then I saw this. A poster was accused of not knowing what she was talking about, so she said she works with this population and that's why she supports this plan. Then the person who incorrectly accused her of not knowing anything changes tactics and asks why she hasn't done a better job fixing a problem that they're actively thwarting, complete with crocodile tears about the poor homeless families and their loss of community and feelings of displacement and inadequacy.

Here's a thought. Fund these shelters. Hire tons of case managers. Combat the supposed loss of community and feelings of inadequacy by welcoming them into the community. Certainly what we have now isn't working and this hasn't been tried.

There are very few of these shelters in Bethesda compared to DC and if she's speaking of the one I think she is, there are maybe 18 families of mother and child, no father. That individual is not only biased, she is coming from a little wealthy elitist bubble.

There are more programs than that one, pp. There are some for homeless men in Bethesda, too. They aren't noticeable. They blend in. Beautiful apartments with case management onsite.

If you have ever actually worked with people experiencing homelessness, you'd realize that they are human beings just like the rest of us. They aren't monsters to be feared.

Some of you people super suck.

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Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Please provide data for your adamant statementsbb

I thought I did when I stated that we have homeless shelters and housing programs in BETHESDA...ever heard of it? It's much nicer than the area we're discussing on Wisconsin, with high end housing, top notch schools, etc.

Much nicer? Check your price per square foot comps. A half-mile is much much different than one to four or five doors down. There is a reason this lot is not zoned for this type of building. There was no bidding process on this project. The purchaser of the lot wanted to build a big development, but couldn't due to zoning. Now he can. When the city stops leasing the property from him, he will convert it to apartments and will have successfully skirted the zoning laws. For those of you who say you live in the neighborhood, if you live in Glover Park, you do not. Yes, there will be support for a family shelter from the neighborhood, but only for one that zoning allows.

Hey Glover Park/Observatory Circle -- looks like you've been Bowsered!

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Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Please provide data for your adamant statementsbb

I thought I did when I stated that we have homeless shelters and housing programs in BETHESDA...ever heard of it? It's much nicer than the area we're discussing on Wisconsin, with high end housing, top notch schools, etc.

Much nicer? Check your price per square foot comps. A half-mile is much much different than one to four or five doors down. There is a reason this lot is not zoned for this type of building. There was no bidding process on this project. The purchaser of the lot wanted to build a big development, but couldn't due to zoning. Now he can. When the city stops leasing the property from him, he will convert it to apartments and will have successfully skirted the zoning laws. For those of you who say you live in the neighborhood, if you live in Glover Park, you do not. Yes, there will be support for a family shelter from the neighborhood, but only for one that zoning allows.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither will the case managers and providers. They are employable and can find other jobs. It is people like the advocates and policy people who will lose their jobs. A OP said she has spent her career in homeless advocacy. What will she do with that? And why has she done such a poor job?

I really thought I'd seen everything. Then I saw this. A poster was accused of not knowing what she was talking about, so she said she works with this population and that's why she supports this plan. Then the person who incorrectly accused her of not knowing anything changes tactics and asks why she hasn't done a better job fixing a problem that they're actively thwarting, complete with crocodile tears about the poor homeless families and their loss of community and feelings of displacement and inadequacy.

Here's a thought. Fund these shelters. Hire tons of case managers. Combat the supposed loss of community and feelings of inadequacy by welcoming them into the community. Certainly what we have now isn't working and this hasn't been tried.

There are very few of these shelters in Bethesda compared to DC and if she's speaking of the one I think she is, there are maybe 18 families of mother and child, no father. That individual is not only biased, she is coming from a little wealthy elitist bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Yikes. She's back. The angry poster who does not live in DC but for some reason is telling everyone in DC how to feel and act. People have a right to their opinions regardless of whether you agree with them or not. This does not affect you so why are you on this thread attacking people who it will affect?

Because I work in the homeless advocacy arena in DC and I actually know what's what. And I live less than a half mile from a housing program in MoCo and my kids ride the bus to school with "those kids." So I can assure you that you are freaking out about nothing. It will be fine...I promise.

You should be proud of your mayor...she totally rocks.

PS - this does affect me...because homelessness affects all of us...at least those of us who care and have dedicated our careers to finding solutions instead of bitching about our home values.

You are posting from a biased point of view. DC individuals have a right to be concerned about what they worked so hard for.

Place to stay and money to live off of isn't enough. Check the latest studies and literature. It helps but is ultimately only of limited value. It needs to be combined with behavior therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither will the case managers and providers. They are employable and can find other jobs. It is people like the advocates and policy people who will lose their jobs. A OP said she has spent her career in homeless advocacy. What will she do with that? And why has she done such a poor job?

I really thought I'd seen everything. Then I saw this. A poster was accused of not knowing what she was talking about, so she said she works with this population and that's why she supports this plan. Then the person who incorrectly accused her of not knowing anything changes tactics and asks why she hasn't done a better job fixing a problem that they're actively thwarting, complete with crocodile tears about the poor homeless families and their loss of community and feelings of displacement and inadequacy.

Here's a thought. Fund these shelters. Hire tons of case managers. Combat the supposed loss of community and feelings of inadequacy by welcoming them into the community. Certainly what we have now isn't working and this hasn't been tried.

One of the minor details you missed is that one of the people saying the poster "with years of experience" didn't entirely know what they had been talking about had themselves been homeless.

Anonymous wrote:Neither will the case managers and providers. They are employable and can find other jobs. It is people like the advocates and policy people who will lose their jobs. A OP said she has spent her career in homeless advocacy. What will she do with that? And why has she done such a poor job?

I really thought I'd seen everything. Then I saw this. A poster was accused of not knowing what she was talking about, so she said she works with this population and that's why she supports this plan. Then the person who incorrectly accused her of not knowing anything changes tactics and asks why she hasn't done a better job fixing a problem that they're actively thwarting, complete with crocodile tears about the poor homeless families and their loss of community and feelings of displacement and inadequacy.

Here's a thought. Fund these shelters. Hire tons of case managers. Combat the supposed loss of community and feelings of inadequacy by welcoming them into the community. Certainly what we have now isn't working and this hasn't been tried.

Neither will the case managers and providers. They are employable and can find other jobs. It is people like the advocates and policy people who will lose their jobs. A OP said she has spent her career in homeless advocacy. What will she do with that? And why has she done such a poor job?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Please provide data for your adamant statementsbb

I thought I did when I stated that we have homeless shelters and housing programs in BETHESDA...ever heard of it? It's much nicer than the area we're discussing on Wisconsin, with high end housing, top notch schools, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its true a lot of people make a living addressing these kinds of issues (you are not a volunteer correct?)

The homeless is a huge industry and the advocates and policy people who preach about what we should do obviously have a vested interest in keeping their jobs.

More importantly, how do the Russians feel about a homeless shelter across from their compound?

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I think you mean the case managers and providers, pp...because the advocates and policy people won't lose their jobs if homelessness ends tomorrow.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The faux concern on this thread is nauseating.

A lot of very legitimate questions have been raised in this thread with few answers in response other than the standard "you're a NIMBY and you don't care about the poors."

Maybe some don't, maybe some do but that still doesn't specifically address the concerns being raised. Some have pointed out that this could be as bad or worse of a debacle than DC General already is, some have pointed out that Bowser's concern may be faux and in fact more about developer cronies...

Don't be too sure about what is or isn't faux.

Can you read?!?!

Most of the faux concern/non-issues have been addressed.

You shouldn't be so rude. There at several players relying to you and not just one person as you may think. If someone feels their security is at rush, that their property value will decrease, and that their school performance will diminish, that is their opinion and are valid concerns. Stop being so judgmental!!

Typos. "Several posters" and "security is at risk"

But your home values will be fine, schools will be fine, security will be fine.

You are panicking for no good reason other than fear of the unknown.

We have homeless shelters and housing programs throughout MoCo...including (gasp) Bethesda!

Do you think home values and test scores have gone down? No.

Quick question for the critics: who are you supporting in the election? Must be a republican, otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Please provide data for your adamant statementsbb

Anonymous wrote:Its true a lot of people make a living addressing these kinds of issues (you are not a volunteer correct?)

The homeless is a huge industry and the advocates and policy people who preach about what we should do obviously have a vested interest in keeping their jobs.

More importantly, how do the Russians feel about a homeless shelter across from their compound?