Anonymous wrote:Religion

I am the first poster who said I don't like the Hijab. I actually am not crazy about other outward displays of religion either. But of course I don't think they should be banned.

I am all about freedom. And it's even more dangerous when a society starts to tell women (or anyone) what they can and cannot wear, than it is to have to see a cross or a yarmulke or a hijab.

I cannot deny the visceral reaction I have in my heart, and I have to work to overcome my reaction. That is my secret.

Unlike my conservative relatives who piss me off by saying the hijab should be banned. I would never support such an effort.

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Also, SAHMs who say things like "our income" - it's not yours, it's your husband's.

You are an idiot. This is what is wrong with modern feminism. I will take 1920's feminism any day.

Um, if you are staying home doing all of the childcare and homemaking as your end of the deal and your husband is making the money as his end of the deal then saying "our income" is totally correct. And I'm a working mom who contributes 50% to our income but still recognize that being a SAHM is a job.

No, it's not. So when DH gets a raise or bonus for finishing a difficult project or solving a difficult problem at work, does the SAHM get to say, "Wow. we got a raise because we thought of a really great solution to that problem/difficult project." No, she does not. And for those of you that'll come back here saying that by her taking care of all the household things she gave him the ability to get that project done. You need to compare whether he would have completed that project if he were a single man living alone. He thought up whatever that project entailed - he was the creative or trained or talented mind that did it. That's why she doesn't earn that income.

she has every right to share ownership of the bank account where that icome was deposited (OUR money, OUR accounts) and share ownership of the assets (OUR house, OUR cars) because she does work as a SAHM and contributes equally to the household. But it's definitely NOT correct that it's equally her income.

I oppose Gay Marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm against illegal immigration and do not support amnesty for illegal immigrants regardless of their country of origin (i.e., don't care if you're from Ireland or El Salvador). Think there should be severe penalties for those who are in the country illegally and I do not think that children of illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship - too much of an incentive. I'm pro immigrant on the whole, though, just through legal means.

Ditto. I would never admit this either aloud.

Another ditto.

Ditto. I think we should shoot on site as soon as a part of their body sits US soil. I don't care if a baby is in their arms (don't shoot baby though). If we know someone is illegal it should be immediate jail and sent back to their country.

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ART involving egg-donation or sperm donation
single motherhood by choice by ART
same-sex parenthood by ART

Just curious: are you against all ART or just these aspects? Are you cool with single motherhood or same-sex parenthood if they don't involve ART?

yes, that is why I phrased it that way

You DO realize that save-sex parenthood cannot happen without ART, right? So, you are basically against any same-sex parenhood.

Not true. I am not the PP, but I know plenty of same sex couples who have adopted their children.

I know two who had their kids naturally (one by a previous straight relationship, one by having straight sex -- supposedly took the first time).

Just because you're gay, don't make the parts stop workin.

Anonymous wrote:SAHMs who claim they stay home to teach their kids, so their kids can learn from them, etc - yet they can barely put a coherent sentence together and seem to spend all their time on DCUM.

Also, SAHMs who say things like "our income" - it's not yours, it's your husband's.

No it's 'ours". That's what makes marriage unique.

Religion

Big expensive weddings if you already having kids and already in debt.

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Anonymous wrote:Secretly I hate the hijab. But I don't oppose the right of others to wear it.
Every time I see it, it makes me angry. I have to refocus my liberal, feminist values to remind me that everyone gets to wear whatever they want, none of my beeswax.

But in my heart I "oppose" it.

I openly oppose it. I think we should ban hijab and yamakes too. Any outward display of religion should be banned.

Are you going to stop wearing cross necklaces?

A. I don't wear a cross. B. I said ALL OUTWARD DISPLAYS OF RELIGION. Last time I checked, a cross is religious. I didn't mention it because I haven't seen one in a while. But yes, all religious displays should be banned.

Wow. So much for freedom of religion.

Anonymous wrote:24 pages of hate. Nice, people.

Humanity at it's finest.

I oppose people who don't mind their own goddamned business.

I oppose people who oppose:

Gay Marriage
Adoption
Interracial Marriage
Immigration

24 pages of hate. Nice, people.

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Anonymous wrote:Moms who work FT "by choice", gay marriage, any sort of weird diet that is not related to food allergy/intolerance (vegan, vegetarian, gluten free, etc.), people who drive cars that are disproportionately nice compared to their house.

I could go on and on. I'm quite judgy, but know better than to tell people!

Ooh ooh, I am a mom who's always worked full time by choice. Do you think it's not really my choice, or that all women should SAH or WOH PT once they become parents? How totally weird.

I know it's totally your choice, that you could easily afford to stay home with your children and don't. That is why I judge. Women who truly must work to cover basic bills, I feel sorry for.

What are you judging? That my children are neglected or being raised wrong because their other parent is as equally involved? Do you think because I work by choice, I'm materialistic? Do you think only women who want to spend the majority of their time with their children should have them?

Mostly this. Obviously I don't know you personally, but many people I know "can't afford to stay home" because then they couldn't afford the country club and the X5.

But I CAN afford to stay home. I work full time by choice. I work for the intellectual stimulation, social interaction and because I'd be bored shitless at home. We save 80% of my salary. So what's your objection, since I fully admit we don't need me to work for financial reasons?

Really, you have no hobbies or interests that you could pursue that would give you more interaction/stimulation than going to some job? You really think that stay at home moms just sit around the house bored shitless all day??

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ART involving egg-donation or sperm donation
single motherhood by choice by ART
same-sex parenthood by ART

Just curious: are you against all ART or just these aspects? Are you cool with single motherhood or same-sex parenthood if they don't involve ART?

yes, that is why I phrased it that way

You DO realize that save-sex parenthood cannot happen without ART, right? So, you are basically against any same-sex parenhood.

Not true. I am not the PP, but I know plenty of same sex couples who have adopted their children.

Cats.

Well, I don't 'oppose' them as much as I dislike them, but since my MIL is such a crazy cat freak, I'd never say anything. But I always shudder when she tries to force her 'kitty love' on DC. Ugh.