Anonymous
05/16/2013 09:16
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:3.5 hours?? MY DS still remembers taking that test as very traumatic, and we were only there for 1.5 hours. Those grad students can be quite mean and scary due to their inexperience. If it takes that long...DS did get in, but had good supporting materials. Do you really have to turn in all those supporting tests? Ours was just one page with 3-4 results. How I hated doing that to my DS!! Loved the AAP program though.
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Anonymous
05/16/2013 09:06
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
3.5 hours?? MY DS still remembers taking that test as very traumatic, and we were only there for 1.5 hours. Those grad students can be quite mean and scary due to their inexperience. If it takes that long...DS did get in, but had good supporting materials. Do you really have to turn in all those supporting tests? Ours was just one page with 3-4 results. How I hated doing that to my DS!! Loved the AAP program though.
Anonymous
05/16/2013 08:52
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Also, GMU isn't a for profit business, so there is no need to get lots of kids in and out quickly.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 21:22
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that GMU does all of the subtests, which private testers usually do not, so GMU tests take longer. It's kind of interesting to get all of those results back. You can often see clear patterns.
True. There were all kinds of subtests in the report, and some were very interesting. The only problem is that it is hard to keep a 7-year old focused for 3.5 hours, and in our case it showed when the tester started the timed section (where the questions were simpler but had to be done faster). DC totally lost focus/interest. Still, I think having all the subscores provides richer information and a better picture of the child.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 21:08
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Keep in mind that GMU does all of the subtests, which private testers usually do not, so GMU tests take longer. It's kind of interesting to get all of those results back. You can often see clear patterns.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 20:59
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
My kid scored 146 on the WISC and was in and out (Dr. Dahlgren) in a little over an hour.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 20:40
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Our WISC was done in 1 hour 15 minutes or so. Dr. Dahlgren. In at 3:30, done by 4:40, 4:45. Scored FSIQ of 130. 3.5 hours is way too long - goodness what were the testers doing???
Anonymous
05/15/2013 20:08
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:I think GMU just takes longer because they are students. My daughter takes her time -- really takes her time -- and she got the wisc done in 2 hours by a private.
+1
I think that some judgment is needed on the part of the tester as to where to begin with the questions. My recollection is that the tester can begin with harder questions as needed, not having to plod through every easy one, so as not to tire out the person being tested.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 19:12
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
I think GMU just takes longer because they are students. My daughter takes her time -- really takes her time -- and she got the wisc done in 2 hours by a private.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 18:41
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
It is usually several hours long. Depends on if there are giving other tests as well.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 18:40
Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
It was GMU. We've heard from others that it took long for their kids too... Could it be because they are using graduate students?
Anonymous
05/15/2013 18:35
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I was always told that the WISC takes about 1.5 hours.. so found it interesting to hear that yours took 3.5 hours. Was it just the WISC?
I know, we were surprised too, but DC nearly hit the ceiling in 2-3 subcategories in Verbal and Perceptual, so the psychologist did a few more (optional) subcategories. Overall, the test, including a couple of short breaks, took 3.5 hours...
We were surprised that DC stayed focused for so long - very uncharacteristic! I guess that's the reason why, even though processing speed was low (I guess fatigue has to show somewhere), the psychologist was not concerned about possible ADD or other similar issues. Apparently, and despite the long duration, DC stayed on track for most of the 3.5 hours. For us, this was more impressive of DC than scoring well overall!
3.5 hours is still abnormally long. My ds hit the ceiling on 4 subtests and was just one point below on most others and was done in less than 2 hours. Was this GMU or a private tester?
Anonymous
05/15/2013 18:24
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
The Dr said not to use the WISC as the processing speed was so low as to suggest an issue. Additionally, Dr noted that with a 16% processing speed the cmte will, wrongly, assume that DC cannot keep up with the course, and that we should first determine the reason and then next year reapply noting the reason for the low score and advise that the issue has been remediated. DC currently has all 4s and o issues with coursework; however, Dr advised that FCPS is not up-to-snuff with 2E kids and that we should make sure we do our due diligence before we make our next move.
Anonymous
05/15/2013 18:19
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
GAI should have been in your report. It generally is with a spread of so many points (I forget, 20? 30?). I would appeal and use the scores if they were that high in the subcategories. I don;t get why your doctor said not to. Who was it?
Anonymous
05/15/2013 17:59
Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
I was always told that the WISC takes about 1.5 hours.. so found it interesting to hear that yours took 3.5 hours. Was it just the WISC?
I know, we were surprised too, but DC nearly hit the ceiling in 2-3 subcategories in Verbal and Perceptual, so the psychologist did a few more (optional) subcategories. Overall, the test, including a couple of short breaks, took 3.5 hours...
We were surprised that DC stayed focused for so long - very uncharacteristic! I guess that's the reason why, even though processing speed was low (I guess fatigue has to show somewhere), the psychologist was not concerned about possible ADD or other similar issues. Apparently, and despite the long duration, DC stayed on track for most of the 3.5 hours. For us, this was more impressive of DC than scoring well overall!