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Anonymous wrote:I liked how this reunion was handled, with no vilifying of people. It felt more balanced and like it gave a chance for seeing all perspectives.

I'm glad Jordan told the drunk wedding story rather than allow himself to be pushed under the bus. Also good to hear Vanessa explain that Alex's behavior comes from a lot of trauma (she had a tough childhood herself) Ultimately the show seems to have learned that full on take downs are not ok and everyone there is a flawed person.

Yeah it was really being framed as he's just a frat boy doofus who couldn't handle adulting. She's not ready for a relationship, she hates men! Like says how much she hates them on TV! And then acting like being invited to be his plus-one was an unrealistic expectation he was putting on her, as opposed to a perfectly normal part of being a couple, was super strange.

Brittany's dad was so kind and genuine. Devonte's kid is screwed, I'm sad to say.

Probably by the first woman who gave his box built body the time of day. It seems really rushed to just up and have a baby on the way. He spent 3 months of the year breaking up with Brit then it takes 2 months for a positive test result so how much does he even know this woman?

He knows her enough to see she’s a white woman. When he saw Brittany was a WOC that was it.

Yeah, he actually implied as much. Said he had never dated or been attracted to a WOC. I have no idea why she did not pick up on that, or her father fwiw. I don't know, it is a question that I would have asked directly. My question is why did both Alex and Devonte stay in that relationship knowing they were not physically attractive to the women they chose in the pods. And BTW, Devonte has some admixture in his DNA. To me, I see it in his phenotype, and if he took the requisite testing, it would be found also in his genotype. JMO

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Anonymous wrote:I hope Amber gets the mental health help she needs. She seems like a good person who need to build up her self-confidence.

Jordan said Amber spent a lot of time screaming - I wonder what Lil Emma will grow up thinking about men.

It depends on her relationship with her own father. It appears that he is in her life, so let's hope he is a good father and pours positivity into her life

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Anonymous wrote:I liked how this reunion was handled, with no vilifying of people. It felt more balanced and like it gave a chance for seeing all perspectives.

I'm glad Jordan told the drunk wedding story rather than allow himself to be pushed under the bus. Also good to hear Vanessa explain that Alex's behavior comes from a lot of trauma (she had a tough childhood herself) Ultimately the show seems to have learned that full on take downs are not ok and everyone there is a flawed person.

Yeah it was really being framed as he's just a frat boy doofus who couldn't handle adulting. She's not ready for a relationship, she hates men! Like says how much she hates them on TV! And then acting like being invited to be his plus-one was an unrealistic expectation he was putting on her, as opposed to a perfectly normal part of being a couple, was super strange.

Brittany's dad was so kind and genuine. Devonte's kid is screwed, I'm sad to say.

Probably by the first woman who gave his box built body the time of day. It seems really rushed to just up and have a baby on the way. He spent 3 months of the year breaking up with Brit then it takes 2 months for a positive test result so how much does he even know this woman?

If I was a gambler, I would bet it was someone he dated prior to entering the pods.

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Anonymous wrote:Haramol has crazy eyes.

Yeah, I got bad vibes from him, but Jess seems like a bit of a mess as well. Goes to show you how editing is really so misleading sometimes. We saw that with Jordan and Amber too with everyone so ready to deem him immature when it turns out she had the bigger issues.

There's stuff on reddit about him ... yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.

But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?

We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.

I think her remarks were restrained.

Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.

NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.

Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.

Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.

She was obviously hurt, and defensive. She is human.

And undoubtedly there is epic disappointment when you have convinced yourself that you found “ your person,” only to be lied to again. [/b]And rejected on top of things.[b]

Was this what was actually driving her to make that speech?

Alex said he warned her the day before he would say no so she went and wrote up a speech to make her look good but she lost.

Makes sense, because I am convinced that she would have married Alex if he was willing to say yes. How many times did she lament that she did not have brown hair.

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Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.

But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?

We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.

I think her remarks were restrained.

Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.

NP I disagree. I think when they wait until they get to the "I do" at the alter they are looking for a viral moment, with the intent to hurt and disrespect the other person. I respect the Devonte and Brie for during it in a relative private moment.

Anonymous wrote:Vic is getting glazed so hard on his Insta. Love that for him. Can't believe an academic represented so well on a reality dating show!

Which university is he a professor?

Anonymous wrote:Haramol has crazy eyes.

Yeah, I got bad vibes from him, but Jess seems like a bit of a mess as well. Goes to show you how editing is really so misleading sometimes. We saw that with Jordan and Amber too with everyone so ready to deem him immature when it turns out she had the bigger issues.

Anonymous wrote:Haramol has crazy eyes.

Reminds of Hakeem from The Bachelorette: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBachelorette/s/u6SRRDZsyD

Haramol has crazy eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:In the long run, Connor is better off without Bri. She is condescending and immature. Connor is actually quietly confident and stable. Nothing like Chris who is insecure and immature.

Agree - when Chris texted Bri after the party, he was like "do you want me to respond?". So, he would have stepped in. But Bri said she would handle it and he trusts her. That seems like a great response. Who wants someone who is going to throw a table at a bar when there was no immediate threat?

I bet he has so many women in his DMs right now. He will find someone great. I also think Bri is misjudging his career. Every time he says he's "blue collar" people around him snicker.

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Yeah, he is an accounts manager working at a desk

Anonymous wrote:Oh Connor, you can do so so so much better.

+1

Bri is the worst. What is Connor thinking? Bri is NOT a girl’s girl at all. What a piece of work she is! Connor if you’re reading this, YOU CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!Chris came off ok. He did his best to own up but he still looked like a Sh!t. But wow, Alex came off so defensive and angry. Was definitely not expecting that. Devonte , wow, I have NO idea what girl could say yes to him! Ugh……….

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Anonymous wrote:Bri is such a male identified loser. She was very unapologetic to Jess for entertaining Chris or to Brittany for the weird Austin trip.

She did apologize to Jess, but I think she and Brittany were the same kind of girl (competing for all the male attention in the room kind of girl) and she didn't feel any loyalty to her so she didn't care. She picked "Devo" in that breakup and doesn't acknowledge a girl code could exist between her and Brittany.

I feel like honestly Brittany didn't have many (/any, except for Amber maybe?) female friendships form in this show. She bought the dress and came for the boys and that's where her head was at. The girls were just competition. I mean did she ever tell Ashley about Alex's weird come-on in Mexico?

Seems weird that Brittany was a close enough friend to ask her dad to bring Connor’s suit but not to say anything about Devonta coming on the “girls trip”. I also don’t even get wanting to be friends with him. He’s so boring and a terrible person. Brittany seemed to be all team Devonta so I’m not sure I get what you are saying about Bri and Brittany being in competition.

And I think Ashley had more of a legitimate reason not to say anything about Devonta coming because of the Alex situation. Ashley does not strike me as someone who would date a non-white person or a fatty but she is very much Devonta’s type. While Brittany is Alex’s type. From social media Britany hangs out with Amber, Jess, Emma and Christine. Bri is the one that doesn’t seem to have any girlfriends.

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Anonymous wrote:Bri is such a male identified loser. She was very unapologetic to Jess for entertaining Chris or to Brittany for the weird Austin trip.

She did apologize to Jess, but I think she and Brittany were the same kind of girl (competing for all the male attention in the room kind of girl) and she didn't feel any loyalty to her so she didn't care. She picked "Devo" in that breakup and doesn't acknowledge a girl code could exist between her and Brittany.

I feel like honestly Brittany didn't have many (/any, except for Amber maybe?) female friendships form in this show. She bought the dress and came for the boys and that's where her head was at. The girls were just competition. I mean did she ever tell Ashley about Alex's weird come-on in Mexico?

She didn’t apologize to Jess at the reunion. Ashley did. Bri is also such a liar. Like why would you tell Connor it was a girls trip? Why would you entertain that evil Keebler elf for so long while you’re engaged to a different dude? She clearly thinks she can do better than Connor but is too ugly to actually get the type of man she believes she deserves.