why do people keep bringing up georgetown? it is a lackluster school as its rank and yield shows

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Anonymous wrote:Replace Umich and ND with Emory and Georgetown

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Not wrong both are better and harder to get into.

Not ND. Has no ED. ED lowers admit rates. Not to mention that ND’s yield is amazing for a school without ED. ND is very underrated. Georgetown is underrated too, but ND should be rated higher than Georgetown.

ND doesn’t need ED because it is the Catholic dream school. People can say that it is welcoming to non-Catholics, but the strength of the school’s Catholic identity is a deterrent to some secular people, not to mention that it is around 70% white, 2 factors which put a ceiling on how high it can be ranked. It may have the highest percentage of white students of any Top 30 school.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago and Hopkins are both great schools but they are below Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, CalTech. Should be around 13. No shame in being 13.

I generally agree with this, though I’d put Chicago below Brown and Dartmouth at 15.

I said Ivies, Stanford, Duke, CalTech and MIT. That's 12 schools. So being behind those is 13. Though on second thought I might put Northwestern ahead of Chicago and Hopkins - not sure.

chicago and hopkins better than most. sad you couldn’t get in

I am not even sure they should both be in the top 20.

It's ok. Georgetown will do well when Hopkins acquires it.

What do you think is a tougher admit, Hopkins ED or Georgetown EA? If you want to maximize your admission chances, apply ED to Hopkins or its fake top-10 brother, Chicago.

probably hopkins. compare the freshman stats

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Not wrong both are better and harder to get into.

Not ND. Has no ED. ED lowers admit rates. Not to mention that ND’s yield is amazing for a school without ED. ND is very underrated. Georgetown is underrated too, but ND should be rated higher than Georgetown.

it’s not all or mostly about selectivity otherwise caltech would be #1

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Anonymous wrote:The Chicago thing is crazy because from top private high schools they only matriculate kids who are well out of the top 20%. Maybe this year will be different.

Chicago and Hopkins are T10 oddballs. I’ve never met a kid who dreams of going to either.

you bitter. get over it

Different poster. He's not wrong. They're the only top10 schools that have ED2.
The only reason to have ED2 is to get a second shot at top students who didn't choose you ED1.

Kind of a dumb take. No one EDs to brown, dartmouth, cornell, etc as a dream school. It's because they didn't feel as confident going for HYPSM. I think it's smart to offer ED2. Most people who end up at lower top 10s had bigger dreams but landed at a solid backup.

huh? Countless people ED to each of these as their absolute dream school. My kid did. They had the stats for any school on the planet and ZERO desire to attend HYP. Can you step away from your prestige and ranking whore mindset for 10 seconds?

Incredibly stupid. People ED to CMU, Emory, Cornell, Dartmouth, Columbia etc. You're telling me if they were handed an acceptance letter from Stanford or Harvard, they would turn it down? How about you step away from delusion.

yes, 1000%. My own DC did.

cool one of a sliver

Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

Well the 42% admit rate is really misleading. The admit rate is higher for OOS than instate like the other top UCs. The same geographic proxy measures used by other campuses are at play here. A top scoring student 3.9 UW, max AP/DE, top awards, top ECs and high scores is more likely to be rejected than admitted coming from the Bay Area or other urban, wealthy, high performing areas.

If you are out of state and have high stats this is a phenomenal target. If you are instate in an area similar to the DMV it’s still a lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

As good or better than Georgia Tech, NYU, BC, Tufts? If it were on the east coast, it would be competing with Rutgers-Newark and UMass-Lowell (not even the Rutgers and UMass flagships).

Who knows? The schools are all different, each with their own emphasis, which gets the absurdity of the rankings.

UC Davis, like many of the UCs, moved up the rankings because of changed metrics that highlighted social mobility and the percentage of Pell grant recipients.

But if it were in Massachusetts, it would be state flagship and it is comparable to Rutgers-New Brunswick. Parents who have posted on this site with kids there have been favorable.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Now do cost of tution and average salary compared to Emory and GU, the stats that really matter. Especially UC Davis engineering vs the latter two.

Now you do that comparison to Georgia Tech, which shares the #32 ranking with Davis.

lol

Undergraduate Engineering Programs (Overall)
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Georgia Tech
32. UC Davis

Chemical
1. MIT
2. Georgia Tech

Biomedical
1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkns
3. Duke
*UC Davis Unranked

Aerospace
1. MIT
2. Georgia Tech
*UC Davis unranked

Electrical
1. UC Berkely
2. MIT
3. Georgia Tech
4. Stanford
*UC Davis unranked

Civil
1. UC Berkely
2. Georgia Tech
* UC Davis unranked

Industrial
1. Georgia Tech
*UC Davis unranked

Environmental Engineering
1. Georgia Tech
2. UC Berkely
19. UC Davis

PP said "Now do cost of tution and average salary compared to Emory and GU". Didnt mention anything about rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

What do you mean, overrated? Test scores comprise 5% of the rankings calculation. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings#:~:text=Within%20their%20category%2C%20each%20school,education%20leaders%20and%20institutional%20researchers.

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Anonymous wrote:Replace Umich and ND with Emory and Georgetown

wrong

Not wrong both are better and harder to get into.

Not ND. Has no ED. ED lowers admit rates. Not to mention that ND’s yield is amazing for a school without ED. ND is very underrated. Georgetown is underrated too, but ND should be rated higher than Georgetown.

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Not wrong both are better and harder to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Now do cost of tution and average salary compared to Emory and GU, the stats that really matter. Especially UC Davis engineering vs the latter two.

Now you do that comparison to Georgia Tech, which shares the #32 ranking with Davis.

lol

Undergraduate Engineering Programs (Overall)
1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Georgia Tech
32. UC Davis

Chemical
1. MIT
2. Georgia Tech

Biomedical
1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkns
3. Duke
*UC Davis Unranked

Aerospace
1. MIT
2. Georgia Tech
*UC Davis unranked

Electrical
1. UC Berkely
2. MIT
3. Georgia Tech
4. Stanford
*UC Davis unranked

Civil
1. UC Berkely
2. Georgia Tech
* UC Davis unranked

Industrial
1. Georgia Tech
*UC Davis unranked

Environmental Engineering
1. Georgia Tech
2. UC Berkely
19. UC Davis

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Anonymous wrote:The Chicago thing is crazy because from top private high schools they only matriculate kids who are well out of the top 20%. Maybe this year will be different.

Chicago and Hopkins are T10 oddballs. I’ve never met a kid who dreams of going to either.

you bitter. get over it

Different poster. He's not wrong. They're the only top10 schools that have ED2.
The only reason to have ED2 is to get a second shot at top students who didn't choose you ED1.

Kind of a dumb take. No one EDs to brown, dartmouth, cornell, etc as a dream school. It's because they didn't feel as confident going for HYPSM. I think it's smart to offer ED2. Most people who end up at lower top 10s had bigger dreams but landed at a solid backup.

I am not a big fan of Chicago or Hopkins but their top students are probably smarter than a lot of HYP these days. HYP admissions is not based on academic merit.

I would agree with this, though it is also true at many flagships.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chicago thing is crazy because from top private high schools they only matriculate kids who are well out of the top 20%. Maybe this year will be different.

Chicago and Hopkins are T10 oddballs. I’ve never met a kid who dreams of going to either.

you bitter. get over it

Different poster. He's not wrong. They're the only top10 schools that have ED2.
The only reason to have ED2 is to get a second shot at top students who didn't choose you ED1.

Kind of a dumb take. No one EDs to brown, dartmouth, cornell, etc as a dream school. It's because they didn't feel as confident going for HYPSM. I think it's smart to offer ED2. Most people who end up at lower top 10s had bigger dreams but landed at a solid backup.

I am not a big fan of Chicago or Hopkins but their top students are probably smarter than a lot of HYP these days. HYP admissions is not based on academic merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Go UC Davis! California’s 5th best state school, with a 42% admit rate, is ranked #32 in the country.

How many times can a shark be jumped?

UC Davis is an excellent, all around school, with a charming college town setting, without toxic, competitive students.

In California, it is considered too far from the coast, from the mountains, from SF, even though it would be considered close to them if it were on the east coast.

Davis is a great school. Better than many overpriced privates like wake, emory, and georgetown.

UC Davis-
1160- 1370/25-31
Emory
1470-1550/32-35
Georgetown
1390-1550/30-35

UC Davis is overrated, Emory and GU underrated.

Where do you get this from? UC Davis has not accepted SAT scores for 4 years so this is just not accurate.

College board and they do take test scores for placement, just not admissions.

What do you mean placement? If students are not allowed to submit SAT or ACT scores then how in the world does anyone who doesn’t take it influence placement? Many California students don’t take the test because of UC and Cal State admissions don’t look at them.