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Anonymous wrote:That's tough, and I can see why you're upset. Having said that, Pitt is the clear choice. It's an amazing school, and your daughter would thrive there in the biomed program.

Yeah, she's definitely leaning towards Pitt right now - Friends have told us that their BME program is great. We're planning to make a visit soon to get more of a feel (and we've never been to the city itself).

Yeah, Pitt is the strongest of those in Biomedical Engineering, and it's such a great school. So many kids happy there, and they attract a lot of high stats kids like your kid, especially in BME.

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Anonymous wrote:Harsh comments on this thread. Didn’t read them all

To the OP, I think college acceptances are a big farce. We pretend like if this child just had diff ECs or something else her outcomes would have been different. I know two kids admitted to Ivies this cycle that are very average (no leadership, hard working but not brilliant). Why were they admitted? Because they come from rural communities and are economically disadvantaged according to the college’s formula. That gave them the boost to get admitted. Kids from the DC region are on a whole other playing field. It really opened my eyes that admissions is a joke and we are pretending that our kids have some control over the process.

Strongly agree. There is nothing wrong with OP’s profile. What’s wrong is a corrupt admissions process that favors rich people through ED, athletes and often legacies and more. No one should be so invested in affirming the current admissions process that they blame this child, especially with racist Asian stereotypes. OP’s kid will do great at any of the colleges she was accepted to. W&M and Pitt seem to have many happy students! OP, I suggest you have this thread locked and stop subjecting yoursef and your kid to these insults.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

When did OP say it was a safety?

21:35pm post: "DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program."

Op also said her daughter was "guaranteed" admission to UVA by her college counselor.

OP has to be a troll. This is beyond delusional.

I said almost guaranteed - Her counselor told us that it was very likely. UVA is a great school, but DD's public sends many kids to UVA every year. How is this delusional?

You literally wrote that Carolina OOS was supposed to be a safety (not even a target). That is delusional for anyone. ANYONE.

Here is a very good explanation that apparently you, your DD and her college counselors should watch. It is never, NEVER, a safety or target for any OOS student. I’m not here to argument the merits of a UNC degree (although I am a fan) but the numbers are what they are. Around 6% OOS acceptance rate, firm instate mandate minimum numbers, 57% increase in applications from 2017-2024 (thereby massively increasing your competition and driving down that acceptance rate even further).

Do you not understand math? Yes, it is delusional thinking to label OOS UNC a safety, an almost safety or a target. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHXMaoEv1tW/?igsh=eG0yMWtna3owZ2di

We didn't hire a college counselor, she had her school counselor. Should we have spent on one?

No one said anything about a private college counselor. Her school counselor is her college counselor. Are you really this obtuse? I guess so. Your FREE school college counselor definitely should have known re OOS Carolina. Everyone knows. It is no secret. So either you are not intelligent or are lying/are making this all up.

I didn't grow up in the US so yes, I don't have the best grasp of these terms. I know that her school counselor is her college counselor, but they are also referred to as guidance counselors. I think you're the obtuse one here, sorry to say.

Do you even know what obtuse means?

Yes I do, and I was using it to referring to how quick you are to make assumptions and be nasty. That, to me, doesn't make someone the brightest of the bunch.

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who finds HS founders of non-profits to be borderline insulting? I worked in the non-profit world, so did dh. These are serious places and it takes as much (if not more) work than a business to be a really successful one. I know bc we now own a successful business. It's not some vanity project to be started by a 17 year old. So annoying. Change my mind.

100% agree with you
Some of these parent-engineered and manufactured non-profits get great results to this day, unfortunately.
There simply isn’t the time, money, nor inclination to verify claims. I am thinking of one (graduated already) person right now whose HS nonprofit has been scrubbed from their LinkedIn recently.

Anonymous wrote:The real lesson here is to step back from the relentless competition that has taken over the college admissions process. The race to stack AP courses, launch nonprofits, start companies, conduct research, and publish books—often all before turning 18—has reached absurd levels. Let kids be kids. Let them enjoy their childhood and high school years without the crushing pressure to gain admission to ultra-selective colleges. In the end, their happiness and well-being matter far more than an acceptance letter.

You're just posting this so your kids have less competition

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

When did OP say it was a safety?

21:35pm post: "DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program."

Op also said her daughter was "guaranteed" admission to UVA by her college counselor.

OP has to be a troll. This is beyond delusional.

I said almost guaranteed - Her counselor told us that it was very likely. UVA is a great school, but DD's public sends many kids to UVA every year. How is this delusional?

You literally wrote that Carolina OOS was supposed to be a safety (not even a target). That is delusional for anyone. ANYONE.

Here is a very good explanation that apparently you, your DD and her college counselors should watch. It is never, NEVER, a safety or target for any OOS student. I’m not here to argument the merits of a UNC degree (although I am a fan) but the numbers are what they are. Around 6% OOS acceptance rate, firm instate mandate minimum numbers, 57% increase in applications from 2017-2024 (thereby massively increasing your competition and driving down that acceptance rate even further).

Do you not understand math? Yes, it is delusional thinking to label OOS UNC a safety, an almost safety or a target. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHXMaoEv1tW/?igsh=eG0yMWtna3owZ2di

We didn't hire a college counselor, she had her school counselor. Should we have spent on one?

No one said anything about a private college counselor. Her school counselor is her college counselor. Are you really this obtuse? I guess so. Your FREE school college counselor definitely should have known re OOS Carolina. Everyone knows. It is no secret. So either you are not intelligent or are lying/are making this all up.

I didn't grow up in the US so yes, I don't have the best grasp of these terms. I know that her school counselor is her college counselor, but they are also referred to as guidance counselors. I think you're the obtuse one here, sorry to say.

Do you even know what obtuse means?

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the school activities? I know that this has been mentioned already but just wanted to emphasized again that I would expect a high achiever to be involved in school sports, clubs or other activities that show some dedication to your community. A 1570 SAT isn't nearly as impressive when you have done so little else.

Agree. OP’s DD reads to AO as smart kid but not one involved in her school other than to take classes and the 200 hours is nice, but there are kids doing 200+ each year so near 1000 hours by time applying. And with many schools still being TO this year, the SAT would not have been the advantage may have hoped for. Crazy for sure, but agree with others on here and especially the poster who said they were Ivy but their kid looked elsewhere even with similar stats to OP DD. Parents need to reset dream schools.

There’s also a big difference between 200 hours at a women’s shelter and 200 hours at a hospital, which is self-serving for a pre-med student.

OP I’m sure your kid is wonderful and hardworking and smart. If it makes you feel better, look up the bios of the kids who win the Coca Cola scholarships. You will not believe the list of things they’ve done over four years. Many of these are the MC/UMC kids getting admission to the schools everyone wants. That’s what your daughter competed against.

The uber wealthy of course are in a league of their own.

Or look up the “stats/ECs” videos of the kids who post their Ivy acceptances on YouTube.

Yeah, top schools throw a bone to first generation/low income occasionally so that their entire campus isn’t the same UMC/wealthy monolith it could be.

There are just a lot of smart and hardworking kids competing for the same few spots. No need to dwell on what happened, just look forward on the bright future she has to come.

The real lesson here is to step back from the relentless competition that has taken over the college admissions process. The race to stack AP courses, launch nonprofits, start companies, conduct research, and publish books—often all before turning 18—has reached absurd levels. Let kids be kids. Let them enjoy their childhood and high school years without the crushing pressure to gain admission to ultra-selective colleges. In the end, their happiness and well-being matter far more than an acceptance letter.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

When did OP say it was a safety?

21:35pm post: "DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program."

Op also said her daughter was "guaranteed" admission to UVA by her college counselor.

OP has to be a troll. This is beyond delusional.

I said almost guaranteed - Her counselor told us that it was very likely. UVA is a great school, but DD's public sends many kids to UVA every year. How is this delusional?

You literally wrote that Carolina OOS was supposed to be a safety (not even a target). That is delusional for anyone. ANYONE.

Here is a very good explanation that apparently you, your DD and her college counselors should watch. It is never, NEVER, a safety or target for any OOS student. I’m not here to argument the merits of a UNC degree (although I am a fan) but the numbers are what they are. Around 6% OOS acceptance rate, firm instate mandate minimum numbers, 57% increase in applications from 2017-2024 (thereby massively increasing your competition and driving down that acceptance rate even further).

Do you not understand math? Yes, it is delusional thinking to label OOS UNC a safety, an almost safety or a target. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHXMaoEv1tW/?igsh=eG0yMWtna3owZ2di

We didn't hire a college counselor, she had her school counselor. Should we have spent on one?

No one said anything about a private college counselor. Her school counselor is her college counselor. Are you really this obtuse? I guess so. Your FREE school college counselor definitely should have known re OOS Carolina. Everyone knows. It is no secret. So either you are not intelligent or are lying/are making this all up.

I didn't grow up in the US so yes, I don't have the best grasp of these terms. I know that her school counselor is her college counselor, but they are also referred to as guidance counselors. I think you're the obtuse one here, sorry to say.

Oh, NO. Not the guidance counselor. Every FCPS high school has someone in charge of college stuff - they coordinate college rep visits, evening program for parents re: college admissions and financial aid, etc. A student can request an individual appointment. Amy info should have come from a daytime or evening program from this person or an individual meeting.

Guidance counselors are often dumb f—ks. They are just focused on getting everyone graduated and are not at all college admissions experts.

And no, I didn’t hire anyone. I just talked with other parents and read this board.

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Anonymous wrote:sorry, it looked like she worked really hard and deserved to get into one of those. It was probably the major that stopped her or maybe her race. Maybe you guys should have applied to oos state schools like unc chapell hill, OSU, umn, UCLA, etc.

And thank you! We were all pretty surprised with the results, but people here are saying that apparently VT shouldn't have been a target.

Yeah, VT engineering is never a target, especially from NoVA.

People see VT's overall acceptance rate without realizing that it is a slaughterhouse for engineering for NOVA students. I would also consider Lehigh a reach RD. I know it's been said, but where is Case Western? This kid sounds perfect for Case and would have likely received a lot of merit.

Harsh comments on this thread. Didn’t read them all

To the OP, I think college acceptances are a big farce. We pretend like if this child just had diff ECs or something else her outcomes would have been different. I know two kids admitted to Ivies this cycle that are very average (no leadership, hard working but not brilliant). Why were they admitted? Because they come from rural communities and are economically disadvantaged according to the college’s formula. That gave them the boost to get admitted. Kids from the DC region are on a whole other playing field. It really opened my eyes that admissions is a joke and we are pretending that our kids have some control over the process.

Anonymous wrote:Where are the school activities? I know that this has been mentioned already but just wanted to emphasized again that I would expect a high achiever to be involved in school sports, clubs or other activities that show some dedication to your community. A 1570 SAT isn't nearly as impressive when you have done so little else.

Agree. OP’s DD reads to AO as smart kid but not one involved in her school other than to take classes and the 200 hours is nice, but there are kids doing 200+ each year so near 1000 hours by time applying. And with many schools still being TO this year, the SAT would not have been the advantage may have hoped for. Crazy for sure, but agree with others on here and especially the poster who said they were Ivy but their kid looked elsewhere even with similar stats to OP DD. Parents need to reset dream schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

When did OP say it was a safety?

21:35pm post: "DD really liked CMU and wanted to double major with BME. UNC's joint program was supposed to be more of a safety, and DD said that she loved Dartmouth's flexibility in that program."

Op also said her daughter was "guaranteed" admission to UVA by her college counselor.

OP has to be a troll. This is beyond delusional.

I said almost guaranteed - Her counselor told us that it was very likely. UVA is a great school, but DD's public sends many kids to UVA every year. How is this delusional?

You literally wrote that Carolina OOS was supposed to be a safety (not even a target). That is delusional for anyone. ANYONE.

Here is a very good explanation that apparently you, your DD and her college counselors should watch. It is never, NEVER, a safety or target for any OOS student. I’m not here to argument the merits of a UNC degree (although I am a fan) but the numbers are what they are. Around 6% OOS acceptance rate, firm instate mandate minimum numbers, 57% increase in applications from 2017-2024 (thereby massively increasing your competition and driving down that acceptance rate even further).

Do you not understand math? Yes, it is delusional thinking to label OOS UNC a safety, an almost safety or a target. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHXMaoEv1tW/?igsh=eG0yMWtna3owZ2di

We didn't hire a college counselor, she had her school counselor. Should we have spent on one?

No one said anything about a private college counselor. Her school counselor is her college counselor. Are you really this obtuse? I guess so. Your FREE school college counselor definitely should have known re OOS Carolina. Everyone knows. It is no secret. So either you are not intelligent or are lying/are making this all up.

I didn't grow up in the US so yes, I don't have the best grasp of these terms. I know that her school counselor is her college counselor, but they are also referred to as guidance counselors. I think you're the obtuse one here, sorry to say.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I think the reason she didn’t get into UVA is the lack of leadership/contribution to her high school community.

The time she spent self-studying for extra APs (not helpful, btw) could have been spent getting involved in a EC at her school where she functioned in a team/group setting.

Robotics team, Engineering club, lots of options that could have aligned with her natural interests.

She was in a few clubs and president of 2, but wasn't involved in any sports. This probably wasn't enough then? She did do a lot of volunteering out-of-school.