Anonymous wrote:What is the Supreme Court going to do?

It's such a toughie. Require constitutional due process or find a way to avoid confrontation and allow Trump's admin to slide past it.

Are we a lawless country because we fear Donald Trump? Or are we a nation of laws?

Anonymous wrote:The administration has appealed to the Supreme Court but as of now, the current court order requiring retrieval by midnight tonight remains in effect. The DOJ attorneys remain suspended, so not sure how the judge is going to be updated by DOJ.

AG Bondi is really doing a bang up job right now.

#lawandorder /s

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

The government has not come forward with any credible evidence that this man is or was a gang member yet they continue to double down on this lie. Do you really think in 2019, when Trump was president and this man was in court, that a judge would allow him to have a green card if he was a gang member? Do you really think, if this was the case, that the Trump administration would not have appealed that decision?

I pray this man is returned and he sues everyone he’s legally able to for defamation.

The administration has appealed to the Supreme Court but as of now, the current court order requiring retrieval by midnight tonight remains in effect. The DOJ attorneys remain suspended, so not sure how the judge is going to be updated by DOJ.

AG Bondi is really doing a bang up job right now.

What is the Supreme Court going to do?

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

Did they willfully disobey? This was an administrative error.

The first time was an error. Refusing to fix it is willfully disobeying a court order and the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

They missed that he had the withholding of removal.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

Did they willfully disobey? This was an administrative error.

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

You are making claims that do not match the legal record--this is from the 4/4 order upheld by the 4/6 ruling.

Abrego Garcia was born and raised in Los Nogales, El Salvador. ECF No. 1-1 at 2. His
family owned a small and successful pupuseria. Id. For years, they were subject to extortion and
threats of death by one of El Salvador’s most notorious gangs, Barrio 18. Id. at 2. The gang used
Abrego Garcia as a pawn in its extortion, demanding that his mother give Abrego Garcia over to
the gang or he and others in their family would be killed. Id. at 3. Attempting to escape the gang’s
reach, the family moved three times without success. Id. To protect Abrego Garcia, they
ultimately sent him to the United States to live with his older brother, a U.S. citizen, in Maryland.

2 Defendants did not assert—at any point prior to or during the April 4, 2025, hearing—that Abrego Garcia was an
“enemy combatant,” an “alien enemy” under the Alien Enemies Act, 50 U.S.C. § 21, or removable based on MS13’s recent designation as a Foreign Terrorist Organization under 8 U.S.C. § 1189.Invoking such theories for the
first time on appeal cannot cure the failure to present them before this Court. In any event, Defendants have offered
no evidence linking Abrego Garcia to MS-13 or to any terrorist activity. And vague allegations of gang association
alone do not supersede the express protections afforded under the INA, including 8 U.S.C. §§ 1231(b)(3)(A), 1229a,
and 1229b.

In Abrego Garcia’s case, the IJ concluded that he was
entitled to such protection because the Barrio 18 gang had been “targeting him and threatening
him with death because of his family’s pupusa business.” ECF No. 1-1 at 2. DHS never appealed
the grant of withholding of removal, and so the decision became final on November 9, 2019.6

So it was Trump's DHS that did not object to the grant once it was issued.
Now Bondi's DOJ has suspended their own lawyer for not lying in the proceeding. He had the choice to abide by legal ethics or be punished by the DOJ.
Are you arguing that deporting him upholds law and order? Or just makes you happy regardless of the law?

How is this the court's business? I mean, his name is literally on the appeal...

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

You are completely incorrect. These mistakes were 100% avoidable. All DHS had to do was follow the law. Respect the Constitution. Something called DUE PROCESS.

The only proof that this man was in a gang is totally unreliable. The allegation is based on a confidential informant’s claim that he belonged to MS-13 in New York--where THIS MAN HAS NEVER LIVED.

In addition to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, there are many other horrible, egregious and cruel mistakes.

I'll start the list. The following men came to the US legally and have no criminal records, only a couple of crown tattoos:

1. Jerce Reyes Barrios
2. Andry Jose Hernandez Romero

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Removing people to the country that they have withholding of removal from due to the Convention Against Torture is a result of an unlawful use of the AEA. Why? For optics, not for any real reason.

We are a law-abiding country, Americans obey laws and court orders. Our government does not get a pass for willfully disobeying both.

Deport the bad guys, make sure you know which is which before doing anything. When you make a mistake, you fix it, you don't fire your lawyer. Because that's optics too, but not the kind you want.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

Anonymous wrote:This is literally the case; I do not care about it, nor should anyone else. I don't think it was a mistake; it might have been an "error," but come on, this is an MS-13 member. Not a kindergartner who ended up in prison in El Salvador. He is where he belongs.

He was afraid of his own government and of his gang. Why are we allowing protected status to horrible gang members who leave dead bodies of innocents to show their power?
Many Salvadorans are pleased with their president and how he is making going to the grocery store less stressful, rather than Squid Games.
I call this a good error for us.

He was not in MS13. God forbid one day the government come after you or your family member because they have a tattoo that *looks* like a gang tatto.