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Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Not a tech person but I am in a Signal group. A few things. When I join Signal, I see all of my phone contacts who also have Signal. So I can message them there.

Even if Signal is secure, your phone isn't. If I were stopped at the airport and customs made me open my phone, they'd see it all.

And within the app, we have people joining and leaving on a regular basis, not necessarily with their real names. So who knows who's in there and what they see? I don't know if that author had his full name listed, or whether he was going by his initials and the group originator thought he was someone else. But it's easy to make mistakes. Like Hegseth could have "thought" he was texting to that group, but mistakenly texted to another Signal group. So he could have shared sensitive information with anyone in his larger circle.

And, again, even though Signal is secure, I can take screen shots of it and share. Even at my government job, where we are nobodies, there is a microsoft application on our phones that prevents us from copying and pasting data from secure government apps, and stops me from screen shotting anything off secure government apps. Signal doesn't have that.

I want to add that all of these discussions are subject to record laws. Using Signal is clearly a way to get around that. How many laws were broken...

It's pretty clear through their casual and cavalier use of Signal that this is just one of MANY conversations that are taking place on the platform.

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to the security risk, I'm kind of appalled that these guys are the ones making these decisions. I think I always assumed there were actual military leaders making decisions that would then go up the chain.

“Yo dude, let’s attack.”

“Well we could wait.”

“Nah.”

“It’s not in alignment, but I’ll defer because you guys are rad.”

“💪🏻🔥🇺🇸”

“Duuude!”

Anonymous wrote:Witkoff was in Moscow when he was added to the chat - he might have even been in the Kremlin. If they're doing everything on Signal, then Russia has God Knows What info from Witkoff's phone.

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Anonymous wrote:I know he's a journalist, but reporting on such an event where he was an actor, albeit a silent one, must be incredibly hard. You have to sift out your own emotions and reactions to tell the story, but I imagine the shock and disbelief was hard to step away from.

Anyway, clown show. It's going to cost so much to fix this mess.

I think he toed that line perfectly in the story.

also:

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Anonymous wrote:I think that there will actually be consequences for this. Republicans are going to lose the midterms and public trust if democrats keep talking about it.

Consequences from who? Sounds like Republicans in Congress will give them a mild slap on the wrist. Speaker Johnson already said, there's no need to spend time on this issue...they'll do better in the future. As if they were a bunch of high schooler kids who made a dumb error, and not people holding the lives of our military in their hands.

Johnson is young and inexperienced. This is actually a serious problem for national security. The GOP will need to realize the vulnerabilities these people create cannot be tolerated. The GOP is holding the ball when we/our troops suffer a terrorist attack.

BS. Johnson DOES NOT get a pass for being the enabler in chief and now bringing down the hammer and effectively trying to seed Congressional control and oversight. His party was right they need a better Speaker!

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this gets Hegseth fired! Please. Please. Please. (DoD employee).

If you can say - are things really bad there with him in charge?

Not PP and not DoD but according to DoD friends there are already rampant rumors of him getting wasted in Europe and making embarrassing (but hopefully not dangerous) remarks.

shocker!

do they think he's going to last?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Not a tech person but I am in a Signal group. A few things. When I join Signal, I see all of my phone contacts who also have Signal. So I can message them there.

Even if Signal is secure, your phone isn't. If I were stopped at the airport and customs made me open my phone, they'd see it all.

And within the app, we have people joining and leaving on a regular basis, not necessarily with their real names. So who knows who's in there and what they see? I don't know if that author had his full name listed, or whether he was going by his initials and the group originator thought he was someone else. But it's easy to make mistakes. Like Hegseth could have "thought" he was texting to that group, but mistakenly texted to another Signal group. So he could have shared sensitive information with anyone in his larger circle.

And, again, even though Signal is secure, I can take screen shots of it and share. Even at my government job, where we are nobodies, there is a microsoft application on our phones that prevents us from copying and pasting data from secure government apps, and stops me from screen shotting anything off secure government apps. Signal doesn't have that.

Also, the entire purpose of its use is to operate outside of standard channels to avoid accountability. It’s written right in Mein Kamp…er, Project 2025.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that there will actually be consequences for this. Republicans are going to lose the midterms and public trust if democrats keep talking about it.

Consequences from who? Sounds like Republicans in Congress will give them a mild slap on the wrist. Speaker Johnson already said, there's no need to spend time on this issue...they'll do better in the future. As if they were a bunch of high schooler kids who made a dumb error, and not people holding the lives of our military in their hands.

Johnson is young and inexperienced. This is actually a serious problem for national security. The GOP will need to realize the vulnerabilities these people create cannot be tolerated. The GOP is holding the ball when we/our troops suffer a terrorist attack.

Anonymous wrote:I know he's a journalist, but reporting on such an event where he was an actor, albeit a silent one, must be incredibly hard. You have to sift out your own emotions and reactions to tell the story, but I imagine the shock and disbelief was hard to step away from.

Anyway, clown show. It's going to cost so much to fix this mess.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this gets Hegseth fired! Please. Please. Please. (DoD employee).

If you can say - are things really bad there with him in charge?

Not PP and not DoD but according to DoD friends there are already rampant rumors of him getting wasted in Europe and making embarrassing (but hopefully not dangerous) remarks.

Anonymous wrote:As seen on Threads:

People are now referring to Pete Hegseth as “WhiskiLeaks.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know he's a journalist, but reporting on such an event where he was an actor, albeit a silent one, must be incredibly hard. You have to sift out your own emotions and reactions to tell the story, but I imagine the shock and disbelief was hard to step away from.

Anyway, clown show. It's going to cost so much to fix this mess.

He goes into it a bit on the Atlantic’s podcast about it yesterday. Short and interesting listen. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ticket-politics-from-the-atlantic/id1258635512?i=1000700679000