Can someone please explain to me, if the cost at top publics is 80-90K a year, that’s 300-400K overall and that’s just undergrad, yet the acceptance rate is like 10%, who are all these people coming applying who can afford this kind of tuition?

UCLA, Berkley, Univ MI & UVA attract high stat/income families just like the private schools do. This isn't new.

When will RD be announced?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me, if the cost at top publics is 80-90K a year, that’s 300-400K overall and that’s just undegrad, yet the acceptance rate is like 10%, who are all these people coming applying who can afford this kind of tuition?

Virginia is a wealthy state. Of the five riches counties in the country, three are in Virginia.

https://usmapguide.com/rankings/richest-counties-in-the-us/

Can someone please explain to me, if the cost at top publics is 80-90K a year, that’s 300-400K overall and that’s just undegrad, yet the acceptance rate is like 10%, who are all these people coming applying who can afford this kind of tuition?

Anonymous wrote:I have always suspected UVA was easier to get into than advertised. I know way too many run-of-the-mill accepted students with slightly above average stats.

I'm not going to be rude and call the kids run-of-the-mill, but I will say that I've been surprised by the results we have seen. Many of the kids I would have thought would have a very good chance were not deferred. Fortunately, some of them are already into higher ranked schools so this saved them from hard decisions. There definitely are some institutional priorities the school does not share with us. I'm sure it's like that at every school.

Interesting
https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2024/12/uva-admission-data-is-plentiful.html

Note: SCHEV's Chart B08 and B08H is very buggy and is showing me incorrect data. I'm guessing it's combining first-year and transfer data (maybe even graduate student data?) in some of the charts. I'm not in Institutional Assessment, so I can't be sure. I just know that their numbers are higher than the ones I have.

I have always suspected UVA was easier to get into than advertised. I know way too many run-of-the-mill accepted students with slightly above average stats.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

Obviously, SCHEV data is correct. The schools want to appear more selective/desirable than they actually are.

In W&M's case, their website data actually makes them look worse (less selective). UVA's data makes them look better, though.

Lol, can’t wait to hear the excuses for this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

The source of the SCHEV admissions data is the universities themselves. So if the universities are saying, “hey SCHEV isn’t calculating this correctly” then the universities are probably right. Or it’s a giant conspiracy where the universities are all lying to make themselves look better to terminally online people. Take your pick.

It's the bolded - but not all universities do this. Just the dishonest ones.
DP

So why are you here? You’ve uncovered a scandal. Not a particularly meaningful one, but certainly one that is newsworthy. Call journalists. Contact USNWR and let them know multiple state universities are lying about their data. Contact the governor, who is no fan of public education or universities generally.

Oh, that’s right, you won’t. Because you know that you don’t actually know.

Wow, overreact much? This isn't a scandal. The only one making it into something "scandalous" is you. It's been pointed out by several posters that SCHEV is correct, so why don't you simply accept that and move on?

Because none of them actually know that SCHEV is correct, nor have they provided any evidence for SCHEV being correct. Read their comments - they’re just trolls. But UVA has said that that specific SCHEV report is showing incorrect data, and we know that it is wrong for (at least) William and Mary too. Which (to reasonable people) means SCHEV is probably wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

Obviously, SCHEV data is correct. The schools want to appear more selective/desirable than they actually are.

In W&M's case, their website data actually makes them look worse (less selective). UVA's data makes them look better, though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

The source of the SCHEV admissions data is the universities themselves. So if the universities are saying, “hey SCHEV isn’t calculating this correctly” then the universities are probably right. Or it’s a giant conspiracy where the universities are all lying to make themselves look better to terminally online people. Take your pick.

It's the bolded - but not all universities do this. Just the dishonest ones.
DP

So why are you here? You’ve uncovered a scandal. Not a particularly meaningful one, but certainly one that is newsworthy. Call journalists. Contact USNWR and let them know multiple state universities are lying about their data. Contact the governor, who is no fan of public education or universities generally.

Oh, that’s right, you won’t. Because you know that you don’t actually know.

Wow, overreact much? This isn't a scandal. The only one making it into something "scandalous" is you. It's been pointed out by several posters that SCHEV is correct, so why don't you simply accept that and move on?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

The source of the SCHEV admissions data is the universities themselves. So if the universities are saying, “hey SCHEV isn’t calculating this correctly” then the universities are probably right. Or it’s a giant conspiracy where the universities are all lying to make themselves look better to terminally online people. Take your pick.

It's the bolded - but not all universities do this. Just the dishonest ones.
DP

So why are you here? You’ve uncovered a scandal. Not a particularly meaningful one, but certainly one that is newsworthy. Call journalists. Contact USNWR and let them know multiple state universities are lying about their data. Contact the governor, who is no fan of public education or universities generally.

Oh, that’s right, you won’t. Because you know that you don’t actually know.

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Anonymous wrote:I will take what SCHEV reports over anything a college posts on its own website.
OOS yield is only 16% at UVA.

SCHEV gets admission data from the universities so if the university is saying what SCHEV is showing is wrong then it probably is. I love how you people think SCHEV has some super secret data that is the ultimate truth just because it confirms your priors.

It's so amusing how very triggered you are by the information posted on SCHEV. If they were posting incorrect information, they would have corrected it. There's nothing in it for them to post something false. Just deal with it.

Not triggered at all, just pointing out why you are wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

The source of the SCHEV admissions data is the universities themselves. So if the universities are saying, “hey SCHEV isn’t calculating this correctly” then the universities are probably right. Or it’s a giant conspiracy where the universities are all lying to make themselves look better to terminally online people. Take your pick.

It's the bolded - but not all universities do this. Just the dishonest ones.
DP

Anonymous wrote:Is the SCHEV data correct for W&M? Because it is different than what is on the W&M website too.

How do we know which is correct?

Obviously, SCHEV data is correct. The schools want to appear more selective/desirable than they actually are.