People who had their kids in 2019 or before would be familiar with this. It’s just going back to pre Covid life.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

Yes that’s exactly what parents did. Some families can flex schedules so one parent drops off and goes in later while the other goes in earlier and does end of the day pick up. Others get nannies, after school sitters or use family help. People do before and aftercare with summer camps and camp selection often was based on work needs not kid preferences. It was common for people to do some work from home in the evenings or early mornings on those occasions where not everything got completed during the work day. And lots of vacation leave gets sucked up by days off from school if you don’t have childcare that runs during periods when schools are closed.

People who had their kids in 2019 or before would be familiar with this. It’s just going back to pre Covid life.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

I hired a college student for the summer who took the kids to/from camp and to/from outings and swim team when they weren’t in camp. With multiple kids, it ultimately ended up being cheaper and more flexible than camp.

How much did this cost you? Was it enough that you had to file taxes as an employer? I think we'll need some extra help but we don't make FT nanny $ even for the summer.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

I hired a college student for the summer who took the kids to/from camp and to/from outings and swim team when they weren’t in camp. With multiple kids, it ultimately ended up being cheaper and more flexible than camp.

Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

Anonymous wrote:I didn't have school aged kids before telework so what did people do? Did people put their kids in before/aftercare/camps/school for 10 hours a day? How did people find time for extracurriculars if elementary kids are in aftercare until 5:30-6?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t mind going in to the office more. But this will significantly affect my kids. They’re in aftercare now, but we’ll be now utilizing it to the max resulting in really long days for them. And we’ll have to limit extracurriculars. I left big law and took a total mommy track job with the Feds for the lifestyle. I’m good at it, work hard, and wholeheartedly support my agency’s mission. I’m so tired and sad right now.

Yep. Not even sure how I'll manage the summer because camps are only like 9am-4pm at the most.

I was just about to sign up for summer camps but this whole uncertainly has throw it all off not knowing how much flexibility I will have. A strict RTO schedule would not only affect my productivity but also my spouse's who would be in charge of pretty much all morning routines and camp drop offs, and make my kids miserable as they need to spend more time at camp or after school. Everyone will be more exhausted, less productive, and spend less time together. Hooray!

Omg camps! lol. How is that even going to work?

Anonymous wrote:lol. 30 days for IT to set up computers, phones, and offices for hundreds of thousands of workers. Meanwhile those same IT contractors have zero incentive to work hard.

More like 300 days, if you’re lucky. Probably more like 600.

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Anonymous wrote:"If an employee’s official duty station is more than 50 miles from any existing agency office, the agency should take steps to move the employee’s duty station to the most appropriate agency office based on the employee’s duties and job function."

What does this part mean? Can someone please translate?

I think it's meant to ferret out people who are getting paid DC rates but moved to like, Western PA during Covid and have been working remotely ever since. No more locality bump if you're not in the locality.

Of all the proposed legislation targeting feds, this aspect seems the least unjust.

As someone mentioned before, if they are fully remote, their pay is based on their home address. OPM has set up the localities for that.

Anonymous wrote:It’s easy to avoid and ignore younger staff when remote. It’s going to be a lot harder to not mentor now that we will see them 5 times a week. I personally don’t want to mentor but realize how with RTO that this will be a bigger part of my life. While I don’t want to return to work, most can agree that this is a benefit to the mission to receive and give mentoring in person.