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Post 12/20/2024 09:32     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Thats how 5 year plans usually work


GA lost most of their top clubs to ECNL during that 5 year period.


They stand to lose a couple more and not to worried about it from all reporting. ECNL hat seems to keep talking about it, wonder why?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 09:27     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

MLS Next will soon require girls' clubs to transition from ECNL to GA, with discussions ongoing for the next 1-2 years. This could signal the end for ECNL, as the top clubs in the nation are already part of MLS Next for boys.

For ECNL clubs with strong boys' and girls' teams, it makes strategic sense to pursue joining MLS Next and GA as soon as possible, before it's too late.

Remember, MLS is aiming to dominate the youth market, and they have more resources than any other organization in the country.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 09:20     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Read it how you wish. The strategic partnership then is different from now, and both releases are not vague. Not a GAstan, but if it creates more competition at the league level (ECNL vs GA), making GA a real alternative for top talent, that is a good thing.

As an ECNL parent, it’s extremely frustrating how lazy ECNL is because it doesn’t have a competitive peer on the girls side, and it can’t seem to find the will to do anything of substance on the boys side to compete with MLSN. If this spurs ECNL to do SOMETHING as a league to meet the moment. Great.

If it ends up GA forges a pathway that meets the moment and draws the best talent, great too! This is a no-lose as a player or parent unless you’re stuck on the branding.


What’s been done here? Girls games at GA cup? What should ECNL do? Have boys games at ECNL Girls Florida?

What’s the link between NWSL and GA? Neither press release mentions NWSL.

Is anyone moving their DD to TSJ, VAR, or SYC so they can possibly play some games at a boys showcase?


Yes. This is all fantasy land. NWSL is not involved and can’t be. Not yet. This idea of ga playing at mls next showcases will never happen. The logistics will be too hard.

Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 09:18     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Thats how 5 year plans usually work


GA lost most of their top clubs to ECNL during that 5 year period.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 09:16     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Read it how you wish. The strategic partnership then is different from now, and both releases are not vague. Not a GAstan, but if it creates more competition at the league level (ECNL vs GA), making GA a real alternative for top talent, that is a good thing.

As an ECNL parent, it’s extremely frustrating how lazy ECNL is because it doesn’t have a competitive peer on the girls side, and it can’t seem to find the will to do anything of substance on the boys side to compete with MLSN. If this spurs ECNL to do SOMETHING as a league to meet the moment. Great.

If it ends up GA forges a pathway that meets the moment and draws the best talent, great too! This is a no-lose as a player or parent unless you’re stuck on the branding.


What’s been done here? Girls games at GA cup? What should ECNL do? Have boys games at ECNL Girls Florida?

What’s the link between NWSL and GA? Neither press release mentions NWSL.

Is anyone moving their DD to TSJ, VAR, or SYC so they can possibly play some games at a boys showcase?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 08:57     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that MLS seeks to dominate the entire market, especially with the World Cup on the horizon. This is just the beginning of significant changes that are on the way.



I’ve heard that rumor as well. Things are about to get really interesting!
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 08:23     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Thats how 5 year plans usually work
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 08:16     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Did we forget that around that time COVID also hit too? Teams of all sports were scrambling on how to conduct business
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 08:05     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?


Read it how you wish. The strategic partnership then is different from now, and both releases are not vague. Not a GAstan, but if it creates more competition at the league level (ECNL vs GA), making GA a real alternative for top talent, that is a good thing.

As an ECNL parent, it’s extremely frustrating how lazy ECNL is because it doesn’t have a competitive peer on the girls side, and it can’t seem to find the will to do anything of substance on the boys side to compete with MLSN. If this spurs ECNL to do SOMETHING as a league to meet the moment. Great.

If it ends up GA forges a pathway that meets the moment and draws the best talent, great too! This is a no-lose as a player or parent unless you’re stuck on the branding.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 07:40     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:I like it. I hope ga/MLSN take over and create multiple divisions and ecnl disappears so everything becomes MLS. It will be the best to USA soccer.


Like this?

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-partners-girls-academy-largest-all-girls-youth-soccer-organization-usa


Haha! So GA and MLSN have had an alliance this whole time? Only took 5 years to come up with their new plan?
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:48     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

Keep in mind that MLS seeks to dominate the entire market, especially with the World Cup on the horizon. This is just the beginning of significant changes that are on the way.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:46     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Anonymous wrote:GA had just started and MLSN had just started.

That was a PR move to help the GA brand. They have had 4 years to collaborate and scheme how they will recreate a better version of DA.

The first step is allowing girls to GA Cup. The biggest tournament in the states.


So after four years of "collaborating", the brilliant combined minds come with up allowing girls in the GA Cup? Just imagine what they will do in the next 10 years!

Don't worry what GA is doing. You're not invited so it doesn't matter.

Stick with ECNL + the SY rec leagues and talk about RAE all day. I'm sure it's the right way to attract top talent.


Spot on. ECNL aligning with rec leagues is not a good sign for ECNL players. Maybe it’s a cash grab? Maybe it’s nefarious and cynical use of the grassroots? But whatever it is, it isn’t actually about the ECNL players, or growing the top tier.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:41     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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So what is going to happen is Washington Spirit will start an academy. That academy will play in the GA?


They will either create one or take an existing club (probably an old DA one) and they will play in the GA.

I do agree though that this was a Hail Mary to keep the last of their top clubs. I do think the clubs that have GA/ECNL may get plucked


Ok so assume your first part - the Spirit creates an academy. What is the advantage to playing in GA vs ECNL? Why do you assume the default is they would go to GA?
There are two NWSL teams with academies (not fully funded) today - NC Courage and Portland Thorns - and they both play in ECNL.


This is an easy one, GA. Now that GA is self-sanctioning, they are an easier body to partner with than a league that is sanctioned two levels below NWSLs relation to the federations. With GA, NWSL only has one partner. With ECNL, NWSL would have to have two, and every decision would need to be approved at two levels.

In retrospect it seems like GA maybe has a plan?

And I say this as an ECNL parent…
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:36     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

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Look up how many teams have mls next and ECNL. Look up how many teams have GA and ECNL. I’ll let your mind do the rest of the work.



Now I'm confused. Say what?

Only club around here that already has MLSN and GA together is everyones favorite SYC. Does this make them more stable and prepared for the long haul? Or does it not matter because nobody actually wants this combo because the MLSN and ECNL combo u=is preferred? Does it mattter, I don't think it does but if you are trying to integrate training and methodologies and want to give players cross training opportunities at all levels. I"m no genius but one combo does make more sense if they are already partnered.


In the past one could say that girls ECNL was better than GA and that MLSN was better than boys ECNL…

This alliance now makes GA/MLSN = ECNL…possibly better if it becomes the only path to the pros.. you see there…

You can no longer just compare ECNL to GA. You will have to compare ECNL to the Alliance


The main path to NWSL for youth players has been ECNL. Hard to see that changing anytime soon. MLSNext is a boys league

No, the main path to NWSL has been college. ECNL is the main path to college. There is no special link between ECNL and NWSL. I think that's the open space here to provide an alternative path to NWSL that isn't just college.


Correctomundo. And those that don’t go to NWSL still go to college


I think the bigger point here isn’t ECNL to College, but rather Youth to Pro on the girls side. If you don’t see that wave coming, you’re blind.

ECNL just doubled down on Youth to College.
The NCAA is doubling down on chaos. And GA just placed its bet on Youth to Pro. If you can’t see that, you’re blind.

GA’s bet looks like a risky one, but it isn’t, because of the pot odds, it’s actually very savvy and has a tremendous EV for very little wagered.

ECNL however basically just put their future in the hands of a newly unstable bipolar scratch ticket addict (the NCAA). Their bet looks like “business as usual” but the payoff of business as usual is linear and low payoff, so they made a huge bet on a small payoff. Sounds smart, but it’s closer to a coin flip than a sure thing, so it’s actually a pretty bad bet, with a negative EV because of the bet size.

ECNL is suffering from the innovators dilemma. Whereas GA has little to lose at trying new things.


Fine to be called blind but I really do not think there is a market for Youth to Pro on the girls side. No market at all. Sure you could fill the seats but at least half if not more of the top girls would stay on the Youth to College path. NCAA is not all that unstable when you go outside of revenue sports. Actually doing fine.

But there is a bigger problem with your analysis. GA did not place a bet on Youth to Pro. What they did was enter into an agreement that paves the way for future work and agreements. The GA Youth to Pro is at best 3-5 years in the future and will take 3-5 years to get off the ground is MLS acadamies are a guide. 6-10 years is a long time. I agreee you have to start somewhere and this may be the start.

If the top GA teams leave this year -- GA dies.


You are having a hard time understanding how this would work. No one is saying that this pathway to pro would make everyone on a specific team a pro player.

What will happen (see any MLS Academy) is that they will attract the top talent in an area. The very top players could “possibly” go pro, while the 99.9% have a guaranteed roster spot on the top colleges.
Unfortunately there are no big money European teams willing to pay millions for a few NWSL academy graduates to fund the academies, there are very few pro women roster slots with only 14 teams and the average player makes $65k. Limited supply and limited demand now and at least for the next decade.

Soccer is choosing to pretend GA is something it isn't with a press release and no real actual action rather than supporting girls club soccer with funds through any of these leagues. Not a great sign for the future of the women's NT.

The fact is the top of the pyramid for women’s soccer in the US right now is college. That’s where most of the money comes from (total college scholarships/NIL money is more than what NWSL provides). The leagues are set up to support college as the destination. This will remain until there is more money coming from the pro system. On the men’s side pro system has more money than colleges so it works differently. Follow the money, people. The pro money needs to be there first before the system that everyone here wants can happen. The system doesn’t change first.


No…the top of the pyramid for women’s soccer is not college…😂 that’s the top of most soccer players careers…that doesn’t make it the top of the pyramid.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2024 22:20     Subject: GA & MLS NEXT Form Strategic Alliance

Reminds me of this, "If you're skeered, say you're skeered.' Of course, all you ECNL truthers will not admit to being skeered..

You never see the one that ultimately gets you...