Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.
Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.
Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.
I love all of these people trying to dismiss the importance of low literacy rates in electing Trump. If people weren't so poorly educated, they wouldn't be so susceptible to voting against their self interests. Remember Trump said from the onset of his first run that he " loved the uneducated ". We have to own that America is majority stupid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.
Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She has always come across as intelligent, articulate and very well-informed on the issues.
She put Trump to shame during the debate.
I don’t even think her answer on The View that she couldn’t really think of anything she would do differently from Biden was particularly damning. She is his Vice-President, what the heck could she really have said?
And this is coming from someone who voted for Trump, but I would have done so no matter who was on the Democratic ticket.
"She has always come across as intelligent, articulate and very well-informed on the issues."
Ah, yes. This is famously true.
Anonymous wrote:She has always come across as intelligent, articulate and very well-informed on the issues.
She put Trump to shame during the debate.
I don’t even think her answer on The View that she couldn’t really think of anything she would do differently from Biden was particularly damning. She is his Vice-President, what the heck could she really have said?
And this is coming from someone who voted for Trump, but I would have done so no matter who was on the Democratic ticket.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm 95 percent certain Kamala Harris will effectively disappear from public life after January 20th. She doesn't have the disposition or the fire to devote the next four years to running for president after a humiliating loss. You need to be a freak of nature to go through all that again - like Trump. That's not Harris. She's presumably intelligent and self-aware enough to understand that she does not have what it takes. She isn't driven by ego or by a passion for policy. She's an opportunist who had a nice career but finally hit her wall. I think she knows that. She has a comfortable life to fall back on. And that's what she'll likely do.
What do former VPs normally do? They don’t normally stay in elective politics. Dick Cheney. Al Gore. Dan Quayle. Walter Mondale.
They get on corporate boards, do public appearances and make some money.
I think Harris will get some no show job at the University of California that pays a lot.
Mondale had the same misfortune as Harris. He was VP of a very unpopular POTUS and lost his bid for The White House in much more of a landslide defeat than Harris because he was running against a legitimate POTUS candidate in Reagan while Harris was running against a terrible opponent in Trump. Biden deserves 99.9% of the blame for Trump's 2024 victory.
Biden deserves about 25% of the credit for Trump's 2024 victory.
FTFY.
99%. If Biden would have gotten the heck out of the way much sooner, we could have nominated a candidate with the stamp of approval from the American people and any normal candidate nominated in the proper manner would obviously destroy Trump.
Everyone is mad at Biden now, but don't forget how committed yall were to the narrative that he was totally lucid and competent. Any mention that Biden was not up to the task was met with attacks that the person saying it was "spouting right wing talking points." You wanted him bad, and you got him bad, and now you're going to blame him.
This is true. When Robert Hur called him an “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”, which in retrospect seems like a very flattering and gracious way of describing Biden, he was met with met with incredible invective. Kamala Harris attacked Hur as wrong on the facts, politically motivated and lacking in integrity.
This. It was so aggravating to have people tell everyone to disbelieve their lying eyes.
It was so crazy. Biden even had a press conference to defend himself where he made a number of misstatements of basic facts, including calling El-Sisi of Egypt the President of Mexico. That was the point where he needed to have stepped down, but instead the Democrats decided a better plan was to gaslight people and bully the media. Everything went downhill from there. And an important part of this story. An important reason why Harris cannot use her shortened campaign period as an excuse, is because she was the best placed intervene and instead was the chief attack dog.
If someone in mainstream media had stepped up after that press conference to call Biden to an interview like George Stas finally did after the debate, Biden would have gotten out of the way in time for a legitimate Dem primary and Trump would have been crushed.
There are many directions you can point the fingers of blame for Trump's 2024 victory. You can play the idiot Trump voters, you can blame the careless Biden 2020 voters, you can blame Biden himself, you can blame the media.... but you can't really blame Harris. She is was put into awful position not to her making and did the best she could.
You cannot fault Harris? The person who directly attacked Robert Hur’s integrity and called him “politically motivated”? It is one thing to defend the President out of loyalty. But she didn’t need to also attack the special counsel.
For all Harris knew, Biden was competent up until the time we all knew he wasn't. It isn't as if they had lunch together 3 times a week. They were and still are nothing more than acquaintances. Trump and Pence weren't close either. It's difficult for VPs to get close to their greedy and arrogant elderly bosses.
She claimed that they met weekly. Are you saying that is a lie?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm 95 percent certain Kamala Harris will effectively disappear from public life after January 20th. She doesn't have the disposition or the fire to devote the next four years to running for president after a humiliating loss. You need to be a freak of nature to go through all that again - like Trump. That's not Harris. She's presumably intelligent and self-aware enough to understand that she does not have what it takes. She isn't driven by ego or by a passion for policy. She's an opportunist who had a nice career but finally hit her wall. I think she knows that. She has a comfortable life to fall back on. And that's what she'll likely do.
What do former VPs normally do? They don’t normally stay in elective politics. Dick Cheney. Al Gore. Dan Quayle. Walter Mondale.
They get on corporate boards, do public appearances and make some money.
I think Harris will get some no show job at the University of California that pays a lot.
Mondale had the same misfortune as Harris. He was VP of a very unpopular POTUS and lost his bid for The White House in much more of a landslide defeat than Harris because he was running against a legitimate POTUS candidate in Reagan while Harris was running against a terrible opponent in Trump. Biden deserves 99.9% of the blame for Trump's 2024 victory.
Biden deserves about 25% of the credit for Trump's 2024 victory.
FTFY.
99%. If Biden would have gotten the heck out of the way much sooner, we could have nominated a candidate with the stamp of approval from the American people and any normal candidate nominated in the proper manner would obviously destroy Trump.
Everyone is mad at Biden now, but don't forget how committed yall were to the narrative that he was totally lucid and competent. Any mention that Biden was not up to the task was met with attacks that the person saying it was "spouting right wing talking points." You wanted him bad, and you got him bad, and now you're going to blame him.
This is true. When Robert Hur called him an “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”, which in retrospect seems like a very flattering and gracious way of describing Biden, he was met with met with incredible invective. Kamala Harris attacked Hur as wrong on the facts, politically motivated and lacking in integrity.
This. It was so aggravating to have people tell everyone to disbelieve their lying eyes.
It was so crazy. Biden even had a press conference to defend himself where he made a number of misstatements of basic facts, including calling El-Sisi of Egypt the President of Mexico. That was the point where he needed to have stepped down, but instead the Democrats decided a better plan was to gaslight people and bully the media. Everything went downhill from there. And an important part of this story. An important reason why Harris cannot use her shortened campaign period as an excuse, is because she was the best placed intervene and instead was the chief attack dog.
If someone in mainstream media had stepped up after that press conference to call Biden to an interview like George Stas finally did after the debate, Biden would have gotten out of the way in time for a legitimate Dem primary and Trump would have been crushed.
There are many directions you can point the fingers of blame for Trump's 2024 victory. You can play the idiot Trump voters, you can blame the careless Biden 2020 voters, you can blame Biden himself, you can blame the media.... but you can't really blame Harris. She is was put into awful position not to her making and did the best she could.
You cannot fault Harris? The person who directly attacked Robert Hur’s integrity and called him “politically motivated”? It is one thing to defend the President out of loyalty. But she didn’t need to also attack the special counsel.
For all Harris knew, Biden was competent up until the time we all knew he wasn't. It isn't as if they had lunch together 3 times a week. They were and still are nothing more than acquaintances. Trump and Pence weren't close either. It's difficult for VPs to get close to their greedy and arrogant elderly bosses.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm 95 percent certain Kamala Harris will effectively disappear from public life after January 20th. She doesn't have the disposition or the fire to devote the next four years to running for president after a humiliating loss. You need to be a freak of nature to go through all that again - like Trump. That's not Harris. She's presumably intelligent and self-aware enough to understand that she does not have what it takes. She isn't driven by ego or by a passion for policy. She's an opportunist who had a nice career but finally hit her wall. I think she knows that. She has a comfortable life to fall back on. And that's what she'll likely do.
What do former VPs normally do? They don’t normally stay in elective politics. Dick Cheney. Al Gore. Dan Quayle. Walter Mondale.
They get on corporate boards, do public appearances and make some money.
I think Harris will get some no show job at the University of California that pays a lot.
Mondale had the same misfortune as Harris. He was VP of a very unpopular POTUS and lost his bid for The White House in much more of a landslide defeat than Harris because he was running against a legitimate POTUS candidate in Reagan while Harris was running against a terrible opponent in Trump. Biden deserves 99.9% of the blame for Trump's 2024 victory.
Biden deserves about 25% of the credit for Trump's 2024 victory.
FTFY.
99%. If Biden would have gotten the heck out of the way much sooner, we could have nominated a candidate with the stamp of approval from the American people and any normal candidate nominated in the proper manner would obviously destroy Trump.
Everyone is mad at Biden now, but don't forget how committed yall were to the narrative that he was totally lucid and competent. Any mention that Biden was not up to the task was met with attacks that the person saying it was "spouting right wing talking points." You wanted him bad, and you got him bad, and now you're going to blame him.
This is true. When Robert Hur called him an “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”, which in retrospect seems like a very flattering and gracious way of describing Biden, he was met with met with incredible invective. Kamala Harris attacked Hur as wrong on the facts, politically motivated and lacking in integrity.
This. It was so aggravating to have people tell everyone to disbelieve their lying eyes.
It was so crazy. Biden even had a press conference to defend himself where he made a number of misstatements of basic facts, including calling El-Sisi of Egypt the President of Mexico. That was the point where he needed to have stepped down, but instead the Democrats decided a better plan was to gaslight people and bully the media. Everything went downhill from there. And an important part of this story. An important reason why Harris cannot use her shortened campaign period as an excuse, is because she was the best placed intervene and instead was the chief attack dog.
If someone in mainstream media had stepped up after that press conference to call Biden to an interview like George Stas finally did after the debate, Biden would have gotten out of the way in time for a legitimate Dem primary and Trump would have been crushed.
There are many directions you can point the fingers of blame for Trump's 2024 victory. You can play the idiot Trump voters, you can blame the careless Biden 2020 voters, you can blame Biden himself, you can blame the media.... but you can't really blame Harris. She is was put into awful position not to her making and did the best she could.
You cannot fault Harris? The person who directly attacked Robert Hur’s integrity and called him “politically motivated”? It is one thing to defend the President out of loyalty. But she didn’t need to also attack the special counsel.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm 95 percent certain Kamala Harris will effectively disappear from public life after January 20th. She doesn't have the disposition or the fire to devote the next four years to running for president after a humiliating loss. You need to be a freak of nature to go through all that again - like Trump. That's not Harris. She's presumably intelligent and self-aware enough to understand that she does not have what it takes. She isn't driven by ego or by a passion for policy. She's an opportunist who had a nice career but finally hit her wall. I think she knows that. She has a comfortable life to fall back on. And that's what she'll likely do.
What do former VPs normally do? They don’t normally stay in elective politics. Dick Cheney. Al Gore. Dan Quayle. Walter Mondale.
They get on corporate boards, do public appearances and make some money.
I think Harris will get some no show job at the University of California that pays a lot.
Mondale had the same misfortune as Harris. He was VP of a very unpopular POTUS and lost his bid for The White House in much more of a landslide defeat than Harris because he was running against a legitimate POTUS candidate in Reagan while Harris was running against a terrible opponent in Trump. Biden deserves 99.9% of the blame for Trump's 2024 victory.
Biden deserves about 25% of the credit for Trump's 2024 victory.
FTFY.
99%. If Biden would have gotten the heck out of the way much sooner, we could have nominated a candidate with the stamp of approval from the American people and any normal candidate nominated in the proper manner would obviously destroy Trump.
Everyone is mad at Biden now, but don't forget how committed yall were to the narrative that he was totally lucid and competent. Any mention that Biden was not up to the task was met with attacks that the person saying it was "spouting right wing talking points." You wanted him bad, and you got him bad, and now you're going to blame him.
This is true. When Robert Hur called him an “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”, which in retrospect seems like a very flattering and gracious way of describing Biden, he was met with met with incredible invective. Kamala Harris attacked Hur as wrong on the facts, politically motivated and lacking in integrity.
This. It was so aggravating to have people tell everyone to disbelieve their lying eyes.
It was so crazy. Biden even had a press conference to defend himself where he made a number of misstatements of basic facts, including calling El-Sisi of Egypt the President of Mexico. That was the point where he needed to have stepped down, but instead the Democrats decided a better plan was to gaslight people and bully the media. Everything went downhill from there. And an important part of this story. An important reason why Harris cannot use her shortened campaign period as an excuse, is because she was the best placed intervene and instead was the chief attack dog.
If someone in mainstream media had stepped up after that press conference to call Biden to an interview like George Stas finally did after the debate, Biden would have gotten out of the way in time for a legitimate Dem primary and Trump would have been crushed.
There are many directions you can point the fingers of blame for Trump's 2024 victory. You can play the idiot Trump voters, you can blame the careless Biden 2020 voters, you can blame Biden himself, you can blame the media.... but you can't really blame Harris. She is was put into awful position not to her making and did the best she could.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.
But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.
Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.
Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.
NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.