Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 13:30     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?

aw.. poor babies. Maybe if the R side didn't have so many cukoos this wouldn't have been a problem for the Rs.

Rs dug their own grave here. Dems just handed them the shovel.


Every single dem voted with the 8 cuckoos. The government will get shut down, kids won't eat, and TSA won't get paid.


So true! It’s coming out the Problem Solvers met, GOP asked Dems to help Kevin, Dems said they needed to have more parity in committees and do change the MTV rule so that one member couldn’t throw House in disarray. GOP refused.

GOP “bipartisanship” means Dems do what that ask with nothing in return. Kevin and his buddies are so stupid.

https://wapo.st/3rHu22A

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McCarthy's own words:

"McCarthy said he would not have wanted to be speaker at the cost of relying on Democrats to provide votes or making concessions to win their votes. “No. I’m a Republican. I win by Republicans and I lose by Republicans. It’s not that way,” he said."


But then he goes on to say that Pelosi said she'd save him.

He recounted a conversation he said happened between him and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), whom he told he was having trouble getting votes in his party to become speaker because he wasn’t immediately willing to bend to demands that he change House rules to allow one member to trigger the ouster process. “She said, ‘Just give it to them. I’ll always back you up. I made the same offer to Boehner, the same thing to Paul [Ryan], because I believe in the institution.’ I think today was a political decision by the Democrats,” he said after they voted with eight Republicans to oust him.


He wants to appear like he's a die hard R, but then admits he needs Dems to save him.

So, no, Dems had no reason to back him.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-most-did-just-moments-201053747.html
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 07:26     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?

aw.. poor babies. Maybe if the R side didn't have so many cukoos this wouldn't have been a problem for the Rs.

Rs dug their own grave here. Dems just handed them the shovel.


Every single dem voted with the 8 cuckoos. The government will get shut down, kids won't eat, and TSA won't get paid.


So true! It’s coming out the Problem Solvers met, GOP asked Dems to help Kevin, Dems said they needed to have more parity in committees and do change the MTV rule so that one member couldn’t throw House in disarray. GOP refused.

GOP “bipartisanship” means Dems do what that ask with nothing in return. Kevin and his buddies are so stupid.

https://wapo.st/3rHu22A
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 23:46     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?

aw.. poor babies. Maybe if the R side didn't have so many cukoos this wouldn't have been a problem for the Rs.

Rs dug their own grave here. Dems just handed them the shovel.


Every single dem voted with the 8 cuckoos. The government will get shut down, kids won't eat, and TSA won't get paid.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 15:05     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:Posted on another thread but it really belongs here. I read somewhere that Kevin assumed Dems would balk at his last-minute CR proposal, that the gov't would close, and that Dems would get blamed. But Dems accepted the deal and that was the end of Kevin.



Maybe that was why he tried to rush it.


ding, ding, ding we have a winner!
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:59     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Posted on another thread but it really belongs here. I read somewhere that Kevin assumed Dems would balk at his last-minute CR proposal, that the gov't would close, and that Dems would get blamed. But Dems accepted the deal and that was the end of Kevin.



Maybe that was why he tried to rush it.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:58     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?


So what? Were they lying about the candidates’ positions? No. The republicans flocked to ten most right wing candidates with or without the democrats help. This is what the republicans believe and this is why we are here.


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extremism, while the left can fund them and form a voting block with them?


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extrmism IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY??? ummmmm... because it's their party!


Yeah but it's our country. Supposedly democracy is at stake. But not enough, apparently, for the left to make a nihilistic suicide pact with the far right.


How come Republicans didn’t negotiate with Dems to get their votes?


Because Republicans expect from Dems what they're not willing to do themselves. They always do this.

+1


Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 13:58     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Aww.. R babies needing the Dem adults to bail them out of their stupidity, again.


Look this is good for the republicans who through the wrench into the gears. They are raising a boatloads of money and Fox is working hard to spread the disinformation. Look for more of this.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:19     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

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Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?


So what? Were they lying about the candidates’ positions? No. The republicans flocked to ten most right wing candidates with or without the democrats help. This is what the republicans believe and this is why we are here.


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extremism, while the left can fund them and form a voting block with them?


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extrmism IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY??? ummmmm... because it's their party!


Yeah but it's our country. Supposedly democracy is at stake. But not enough, apparently, for the left to make a nihilistic suicide pact with the far right.


How come Republicans didn’t negotiate with Dems to get their votes?


Because Republicans expect from Dems what they're not willing to do themselves. They always do this.

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Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:47     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?


So what? Were they lying about the candidates’ positions? No. The republicans flocked to ten most right wing candidates with or without the democrats help. This is what the republicans believe and this is why we are here.


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extremism, while the left can fund them and form a voting block with them?


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extrmism IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY??? ummmmm... because it's their party!


Yeah but it's our country. Supposedly democracy is at stake. But not enough, apparently, for the left to make a nihilistic suicide pact with the far right.


How come Republicans didn’t negotiate with Dems to get their votes?


Because Republicans expect from Dems what they're not willing to do themselves. They always do this.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:45     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Posted on another thread but it really belongs here. I read somewhere that Kevin assumed Dems would balk at his last-minute CR proposal, that the gov't would close, and that Dems would get blamed. But Dems accepted the deal and that was the end of Kevin.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 10:18     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Posted on another thread but it really belongs here. I read somewhere that Kevin assumed Dems would balk at his last-minute CR proposal, that the gov't would close, and that Dems would get blamed. But Dems accepted the deal and that was the end of Kevin.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 09:43     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?

aw.. poor babies. Maybe if the R side didn't have so many cukoos this wouldn't have been a problem for the Rs.

Rs dug their own grave here. Dems just handed them the shovel.


Every single dem voted with the 8 cuckoos. The government will get shut down, kids won't eat, and TSA won't get paid.


Sorry, Republicans can't blame the Dems for their own failure and their own cuckoos.

They didn't vote "with" the 8 cuckoos. They voted against the guy who repeatedly went back on deals he previously agreed to, they voted against the guy who repeatedly screwed them over, the guy who had no genuine interest in working with them.

The lesson here is: If you think you might some day need the other side's help to bail you out of a difficult situation, maybe don't be such a-holes to them, don't be such extremists, don't repeatedly reneg on deals, don't repeatedly screw them over.


And don't go on national television and deride them after they just bailed you out on a continuing resolution vote.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 07:57     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Aww.. R babies needing the Dem adults to bail them out of their stupidity, again.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 23:24     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?

aw.. poor babies. Maybe if the R side didn't have so many cukoos this wouldn't have been a problem for the Rs.

Rs dug their own grave here. Dems just handed them the shovel.


Every single dem voted with the 8 cuckoos. The government will get shut down, kids won't eat, and TSA won't get paid.


Sorry, Republicans can't blame the Dems for their own failure and their own cuckoos.

They didn't vote "with" the 8 cuckoos. They voted against the guy who repeatedly went back on deals he previously agreed to, they voted against the guy who repeatedly screwed them over, the guy who had no genuine interest in working with them.

The lesson here is: If you think you might some day need the other side's help to bail you out of a difficult situation, maybe don't be such a-holes to them, don't be such extremists, don't repeatedly reneg on deals, don't repeatedly screw them over.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 23:12     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this notion of McCarthy getting the speakership is dead. At this point, he wants to punish dems. so he's hoping for the likes of Jim Jordan to be speaker.


Punish Dems! When it's members of his own party who did this to him - and he refused to even negotiate with Dems to save his job!! And he proved over and over he couldn't be trusted!!!

It smacks of when a marriage breaks up due to cheating and the faithful spouse blames the other woman or the other man instead of the spouse.


Or when the non-cheating spouse if blamed for breaking up the family by not accepting the cheating.


They aren't bystanders. The DNC funded extreme right candidates in the midyears and now the Ds teamed up with the hard right to boot the speaker. How can we see them as neutral?


So what? Were they lying about the candidates’ positions? No. The republicans flocked to ten most right wing candidates with or without the democrats help. This is what the republicans believe and this is why we are here.


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extremism, while the left can fund them and form a voting block with them?


Why is it only Republicans that are responsible for rooting out extrmism IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY??? ummmmm... because it's their party!


Yeah but it's our country. Supposedly democracy is at stake. But not enough, apparently, for the left to make a nihilistic suicide pact with the far right.


How come Republicans didn’t negotiate with Dems to get their votes?