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Anonymous wrote:Outside of top 5 private, I will be careful.

Please do share with us:

1. Which schools you think are top 5.

2. Why you think one should “be careful” with schools outside of that group.

Not the pp, but all private or all public are not great. Anyone claiming that is just debating for sake of debating. You can find the good privates and good publics. You can also find bad private and bad public.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of top 5 private, I will be careful.

There are many good privates beyond the top five and as mentioned, they blow away the W schools in the rankings. Only one W school in the top 20...the rest are privates, TJ, and a magnet.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of top 5 private, I will be careful.

Please do share with us:

1. Which schools you think are top 5.

2. Why you think one should “be careful” with schools outside of that group.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of top 5 private, I will be careful.

Please do share with us:

1. Which schools you think are top 5.

2. Why you think one should “be careful” with schools outside of that group.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

LOL how is that any different than private schools?

it's easy to teach kids who come from MC/UMC families with no SN, who speak English at home.

I'd like to see private schools teach kids thousands of kids who are from low income families, or have SN, or don't speak any English at home. If they can do that, then that's impressive. If not, then no, private school teaching is not that impressive,either.

Well, I’m not the one saying one is miles better at math instruction than the other. That would be all of you.

Most are saying that MCPS is better at STEM. I don't about "miles". But, my post above still applies. It's not like private schools are doing a bang up job teaching low income, ESL, SN kids math. It's easy to teach UMC/wealthy kids, either in public or private.

But there’s no evidence it’s truly better at STEM.

Larger high achieving peer group means more advanced classes available.

It does seem the public schools in this area are far more represented at the tech schools — MIT/CalTech/Georgia Tech — then the private schools.

This is also a numbers game. Winston Churchill has over 2,000 students. Georgetown Prep has 500 students. The chances of a student getting into MIT is much higher when you have 1,500 more students (4 times more). And you say "seem." Do you have any hard data on this? Unless you crunch the numbers for each and every public and private school, you won't know this for sure.

They continue to peddle in impressions and anecdotes. When we offer facts, like course catalogs, they balk.

They don’t have hard data to back up what they say.

LOL, this poster thinks that there is some monolithic group.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

LOL how is that any different than private schools?

it's easy to teach kids who come from MC/UMC families with no SN, who speak English at home.

I'd like to see private schools teach kids thousands of kids who are from low income families, or have SN, or don't speak any English at home. If they can do that, then that's impressive. If not, then no, private school teaching is not that impressive,either.

Well, I’m not the one saying one is miles better at math instruction than the other. That would be all of you.

Most are saying that MCPS is better at STEM. I don't about "miles". But, my post above still applies. It's not like private schools are doing a bang up job teaching low income, ESL, SN kids math. It's easy to teach UMC/wealthy kids, either in public or private.

But there’s no evidence it’s truly better at STEM.

Larger high achieving peer group means more advanced classes available.

It does seem the public schools in this area are far more represented at the tech schools — MIT/CalTech/Georgia Tech — then the private schools.

This is also a numbers game. Winston Churchill has over 2,000 students. Georgetown Prep has 500 students. The chances of a student getting into MIT is much higher when you have 1,500 more students (4 times more). And you say "seem." Do you have any hard data on this? Unless you crunch the numbers for each and every public and private school, you won't know this for sure.

They continue to peddle in impressions and anecdotes. When we offer facts, like course catalogs, they balk.

They don’t have hard data to back up what they say.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

LOL how is that any different than private schools?

it's easy to teach kids who come from MC/UMC families with no SN, who speak English at home.

I'd like to see private schools teach kids thousands of kids who are from low income families, or have SN, or don't speak any English at home. If they can do that, then that's impressive. If not, then no, private school teaching is not that impressive,either.

Well, I’m not the one saying one is miles better at math instruction than the other. That would be all of you.

Most are saying that MCPS is better at STEM. I don't about "miles". But, my post above still applies. It's not like private schools are doing a bang up job teaching low income, ESL, SN kids math. It's easy to teach UMC/wealthy kids, either in public or private.

But there’s no evidence it’s truly better at STEM.

Larger high achieving peer group means more advanced classes available.

It does seem the public schools in this area are far more represented at the tech schools — MIT/CalTech/Georgia Tech — then the private schools.

This is also a numbers game. Winston Churchill has over 2,000 students. Georgetown Prep has 500 students. The chances of a student getting into MIT is much higher when you have 1,500 more students (4 times more). And you say "seem." Do you have any hard data on this? Unless you crunch the numbers for each and every public and private school, you won't know this for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

LOL how is that any different than private schools?

it's easy to teach kids who come from MC/UMC families with no SN, who speak English at home.

I'd like to see private schools teach kids thousands of kids who are from low income families, or have SN, or don't speak any English at home. If they can do that, then that's impressive. If not, then no, private school teaching is not that impressive,either.

Well, I’m not the one saying one is miles better at math instruction than the other. That would be all of you.

Most are saying that MCPS is better at STEM. I don't about "miles". But, my post above still applies. It's not like private schools are doing a bang up job teaching low income, ESL, SN kids math. It's easy to teach UMC/wealthy kids, either in public or private.

But there’s no evidence it’s truly better at STEM.

Larger high achieving peer group means more advanced classes available.

It does seem the public schools in this area are far more represented at the tech schools — MIT/CalTech/Georgia Tech — then the private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, if MCPS taught math SO WELL, they’d be able to teach kids regardless of income.

Are you this clueless in real life?

So just to be clear, when you say MCPS teaches math well, you really mean they teach it well to kids already set up for success, with parents who can supplement.

Color me SO impressed.

LOL how is that any different than private schools?

it's easy to teach kids who come from MC/UMC families with no SN, who speak English at home.

I'd like to see private schools teach kids thousands of kids who are from low income families, or have SN, or don't speak any English at home. If they can do that, then that's impressive. If not, then no, private school teaching is not that impressive,either.

Well, I’m not the one saying one is miles better at math instruction than the other. That would be all of you.

Most are saying that MCPS is better at STEM. I don't about "miles". But, my post above still applies. It's not like private schools are doing a bang up job teaching low income, ESL, SN kids math. It's easy to teach UMC/wealthy kids, either in public or private.

But there’s no evidence it’s truly better at STEM.

Larger high achieving peer group means more advanced classes available.

It does seem the public schools in this area are far more represented at the tech schools — MIT/CalTech/Georgia Tech — then the private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

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It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

It's rare because people generally don't apply.

In our tiny little Catholic school with a class of 24 students, one student applied and got into a magnet (Poolesville). The others didn't apply to magnets because they are mainly interested in private school education, in most cases specifically Catholic. Most got into the top Catholic high schools in the area, including Georgetown Prep, Stone Ridge, and Visitation.

This is one example. it's hard to form a AIM level math in private due to such tiny numbers. there may be just 1 or 2 students who would be able to handle that level. It's just a distribution curve.

I don't think private or public is better in all cases. Different kids have different need.

I hate to break it to you, but math is not the only subject taught in school. As mentioned in another post, MCPS does English really badly, so you may think it's great you are getting great math instruction, but your English instruction is lacking.

That said, my tiny Catholic school had half of its 8th graders in higher level math who entered 9th grade doing Algebra 2 with one entering in pre-calc. These kids would be fine in magnet schools. The other half mainly entered 9th in geometry...maybe one or two in Alg. I. These kids didn't just get pushed into it either. They all had to have assessments in their new private schools in order to place into those classes. And guess what...they also have exemplary reading, writing, grammar, and vocabulary skills that are lacking in public schools.

I will point out that while we are talking about W schools here, the rankings of DC area schools by Niche place only one W school in the top 20, and that is Whitman. There are two other public schools in the top 20 -- Thomas Jefferson and Poolesville. The rest are all private schools. I rest my case. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

Not the PP.

Well, it looks like your tiny catholic is an exception. I am private school teacher in well regarded private and it's not the norm.

Two kids from Norwood got into MCPS magnet high schools in the class of 2023.

Likely Caps. For stem it is rare.