Anonymous
Post 08/18/2023 00:18     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


Apparently the blacks don’t care because they keep killing each other. Go figure.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2023 00:14     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There have been several assessments that it's roughly 500 people in DC who are responsible for 70% of the crime in DC. It's far past time for DC to take them off the streets once and for all.

But again we need to have the USAO get off their asses and PROSECUTE them, and with none of this bullshit of turning them loose and asking them to show up again for arraignment whenever down the road during which time they just go out and commit even more crime.


Vote crazy, Get crazy.


Easy for you to say but now try and back it up.
Which candidates ran on a campaign of "we won't enforce any laws!" Was there some ballot referendum on zero enforcement?
Which recent DC candidates did we fail to vote for, who were compelling, credible, electable, and had a solid campaign to take serious steps to reduce crime?
How exactly did I vote for this?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2023 00:08     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:There have been several assessments that it's roughly 500 people in DC who are responsible for 70% of the crime in DC. It's far past time for DC to take them off the streets once and for all.

But again we need to have the USAO get off their asses and PROSECUTE them, and with none of this bullshit of turning them loose and asking them to show up again for arraignment whenever down the road during which time they just go out and commit even more crime.


Vote crazy, Get crazy.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2023 00:01     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

There have been several assessments that it's roughly 500 people in DC who are responsible for 70% of the crime in DC. It's far past time for DC to take them off the streets once and for all.

But again we need to have the USAO get off their asses and PROSECUTE them, and with none of this bullshit of turning them loose and asking them to show up again for arraignment whenever down the road during which time they just go out and commit even more crime.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 23:55     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


People only care when they want to concern troll about black on black crime or deflect towards police brutality. Nobody gives a damn about black bodies.+


A big part of it's because not enough blacks care about black bodies being killed by other blacks. Far too much of the "snitches get stitches" mentality - everybody knows who's committing the violence but nobody is willing to help police to nail them so nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.

Tonight two people were shot outside the Greenleaf Rec Center and none of you finger-wagging folk complaining about everyone else concern-trolling give enough of a shit to even be aware.

Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 19:42     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


People only care when they want to concern troll about black on black crime or deflect towards police brutality. Nobody gives a damn about black bodies.+
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 16:10     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.


Pretty much
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 15:49     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

A huge issue is the federally appointed USAO declining to prosecute 67% of arrests. That number began to rise at the end of Obama's term and continued to tick up under Trump and Biden. It is likely a combo of soft on crime career prosecutors and poor oversight. It is a far greater % than any other major city and may be the highest in the country. Even after being summoned to the Hill and scolded, recently, the rate has not increased in the latest numbers released.

Graves was picked to prosecute J6 cases and has little interest in DC public safety. He gave a recent interview to Bloomberg that he will shift his focus to white collar crime after J6. Perhaps he needs to do that back in private practice and DC needs someone who will come in and clean house and set new standards for USAO office?
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 15:10     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:21 murders in DC so far this month.


Not white, so no one cares.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 15:09     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

21 murders in DC so far this month.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2023 09:15     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone. In 2022, Ward 3 had a Dem primary candidate, Eric Goulet, who had a much tougher stance on crime than Frumin. Goulet was pilloried by the progressives as being "Republican-lite" and a racist. Ward 1 had a Dem primary candidate---Salah Czapary---who was a former cop who said publicly and often what then-Chief Robert Contee has also said often, i.e., the 700 or so violent gun-wielding adult and juvenile criminals in the District are well known to police, and they should be locked up appropriately (so for juveniles that means juvie, not adult jail). Brianne Nadeau's progressive henchpeople discovered that Czapary had a campaign staffer whose father---not him---had worked for Trump, and they papered Ward 1 with signs alleging that the gay son of immigrants was a secret Trumper. We would be much better off vis a vis the Council and crime if Czapary and Goulet would have won their respective primaries. They would be backing the Mayor on doing more to fight crime, not voting for Charles Allen's crazy crap policies, and also pressuring Schwalb and the Feds to actually prosecute criminals. The police would not be as demoralized as they now are---which is the other troubling aspect to all of this, Voting matters and we, the citizens of Wards 1 and 3, royally screwed up our chances to improve things when we had the opportunity.


THANK YOU. Every candidate who saw the writing on the wall re: crime was attacked as a pseudo-Trumper. And now you’re all freaking out about the increase in crime. I really hope people don’t forget this the next time around.


This should put the final nail in the coffin for home rule and statehood. Clearly the populace of the District of Columbia cannot be trusted to elect their own officials. DC has an extremely poorly run school system, has elected officials who have enacted terrible policies that have caused the rise in violent crime while the majority of like size and larger cities are stable or decreasing, they are not even collecting ticket revenue when they should. The city council used to be weak but at least effective. Over the last 6-8 years, the council has gotten progressively worse and enacted more and more policies based on ideology rather than with any intent to strengthen the city.

Someone needs to fix the issues and clearly the residents of the district want people who favor political ideology rather than results. They have turned the National Capitol into the Capitol of Crime.


Nice try. Congress can barely control themselves on the floor of the House; they certainly are not going to be able to run a city (not do they actually care to).
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 13:52     Subject: Re:DC crime stats - holy Toledo

The broad daylight crime with lots of witnesses is relentless

Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 22:23     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?


Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.


Shhh, those facts will make OP's point invalid, so obviously they won't listen.


Not sure. Either way, they are bad and I have no clue how pg got so much more safer.


Hasn’t PG always been safer? Isn’t that any middle class black people moved there from DC during the crack era days?


PG County outside the beltway has always been very safe. Even when PG county numbers were bad, the majority of the violent crime has always come from the small portion of the county inside the beltway, which is only like 30% of the county.

But bigoted MoCo residents would always toss out how terrible PG County crime was without ever really looking at the numbers.


Honestly, if PG ever gets its act together with the school system, they'd be off to the races. Something about a majority run and populated black county scares people.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 22:12     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?


Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.


Shhh, those facts will make OP's point invalid, so obviously they won't listen.


Not sure. Either way, they are bad and I have no clue how pg got so much more safer.


Hasn’t PG always been safer? Isn’t that any middle class black people moved there from DC during the crack era days?


PG County outside the beltway has always been very safe. Even when PG county numbers were bad, the majority of the violent crime has always come from the small portion of the county inside the beltway, which is only like 30% of the county.

But bigoted MoCo residents would always toss out how terrible PG County crime was without ever really looking at the numbers.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 22:09     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are roughly 200-300 young men in DC that commit nearly all the violent crime in the city.

Instead of arresting them, we make excuses for why we can't arrest them. The police know who they are. The neighborhoods know who they are. But DC residents twist themselves into pretzels for why we can't arrest them.

All the sympathy is with the criminals; never with the victims.

Ultimately, the crime problem in DC comes down to DC voters. This is what we voted for. That woman with the multiple DUIs that killed three people? That was us. The police chief noting that the average murder suspect has eleven felonies and still walks free? That was us.

This is what we vote for. Until that changes, nothing changes.


So vote republican is your answer for solving crime?


Well, at least OP suggested an attempt to change. What are you suggesting? Any solution?


Restorative justice works, it just takes time. Instead of locking up black and brown kids because we all know you hate them and are scared of them just...existing, why not give them tools to succeed and not be painted as criminals because of their skin color.

Everyone makes mistakes, but you aren't looking to lock up the white and asian kids who do bad stuff are you, you're not painting an entire race as thugs are you because one white kid decides to shoot a school up. Black and brown people need our help, they're oppressed and all you want to do is make it worse for them.

Sometimes I'm so ashamed to be white.


This is ridiculous. You are looking at the statistics that show the results of prioritizing restorative justice over crime prevention. Restorative justice works on non-repeat offenders, the ones who made a mistake but have an inherent sense of right and wrong. Restorative justice will work on these types to prevent recidivism. But repeat offenders and career criminals, ones who have no compunction against repeating crimes as long as they can get away with it, are not very likely to turn around with restorative justice. These are the people that go to jail, serve a term, get paroled and repeat the same types of crimes to go back in.

The system needs to have a mixture of restorative justice and retributive justice and apply the appropriate measures to the appropriate situations and criminals. Applying progressively more and more lenient sentencing across the board, is how we got to where we are. There is no one that is analyzing the situation and the record of the criminals and applying the appropriate penalty or social counseling. You can't apply either method indiscriminately and expect to get a workable system. So, rather than having legislative rules regulating sentencing mandates, the system needs to leave the decision up to someone, like the judge, or a panel, who specifically review each case on a case-by-case basis and determines whether there is evidence that the criminal is likely to be a repeat offender vs someone who is likely to be rehabilitated. But blanket approaches to judicial rulings will never get things right.