Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Cue the rabid anti-trans posters who think all trans advocates hate women. As if this country has ever given two sh!ts about women, but all of a sudden the performance of sheer outrage that women are being harmed by trans advocates is laughable and misplaced. Maybe if you cared before, but we know you didn't. As if anyone cared about female athletes before, but looking here you'd think that was more important than peace in the Middle East. But if you support trans people, that equates to you being hateful and anti-woman. But please with your crap, we see through you.
+1. It's clear that the PP is just using recycled TERF points without any actual evidence or studies to back up their statements.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Please see the many trans activists who dismiss women's safety concerns about trans women having access to women's spaces.
Yawn. Once again, just because you post something doesn't make it true. And it's clear you are aiming to create division between trans people and women. No one is buying your TERF nonsense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people making noise about Trans are the GOP.
I thought they were supposed to be more Libtertarian, but I guess that is another thing they lie about. So much for live and let live.
Now, you're just lying. Have you not heard the very loud voice of trans activists shutting down anyone who disagrees with their ideology?
Shutting down how? By asking you to tolerate their existence? They are not the bigoted fascists who control state governments and ban books and ideas and any dissent.
They are the first ones to call people transphobes, bigots, fascists, and Nazis, for disagreeing with their ideology. They are the first ones to get violent and loud at events where women with contrary viewpoints speak.
Trans people existed way before the current spate of woke trans activists showed up on the scene. They were tolerated then. What's different now? Demanding that people affirm their identity and not misgender or dead name them goes way beyond tolerance. Asserting a right to access and occupy women's spaces goes way beyond tolerance.
But you already knew that but it is easier for you to cast dispersion on those who disagree with you than to argue on merits.
They aren’t shutting you or anyone else down, but just want to shut them up. They are just as entitled to freedom of speech and assembly as you are, except you support fascists who control state and local governments and want to shut them up and outlaw them.
We know they want to shut us up but that is not going to happen.
Your existential crisis of victimhoold is truly staggering.
You are a snowflake. No one is harming you. You are still free to be a bigot.
No one is harming trans people either. Get a grip!
Oh, really? You do know that there is a great deal of violence against trans people. Not to mention a very large suicide rate.
The violence against trans people in the US is dwarfed in both proportion and actual amount by violence against other marginalized groups, yet those groups don’t scream “genocide” the minute they encounter mild disagreement.
what other marginalized groups are you referring to?
Pick almost any marginalized group in the US and the statement will be true. But to give specific examples: Native Americans. Women, particularly POC women and women in poverty. Black Americans. The rates of violence against those groups far, far exceed anything experienced by the trans community.
Not true.
It is entirely true. The only way your original statement even approaches reality is if you take the position that domestic violence doesn’t count as violence. Is that your position?
The reality is that trans Americans are a safer population than many, many other marginalized groups in the US.
Here's the actual reality:
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/violent-victimization-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-2017-2020
Also, your flawed statement doesn't take into account other challenges that trans people face such as being denied housing, jobs, access to healthcare, and much more.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Cue the rabid anti-trans posters who think all trans advocates hate women. As if this country has ever given two sh!ts about women, but all of a sudden the performance of sheer outrage that women are being harmed by trans advocates is laughable and misplaced. Maybe if you cared before, but we know you didn't. As if anyone cared about female athletes before, but looking here you'd think that was more important than peace in the Middle East. But if you support trans people, that equates to you being hateful and anti-woman. But please with your crap, we see through you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Please see the many trans activists who dismiss women's safety concerns about trans women having access to women's spaces.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Cue the rabid anti-trans posters who think all trans advocates hate women. As if this country has ever given two sh!ts about women, but all of a sudden the performance of sheer outrage that women are being harmed by trans advocates is laughable and misplaced. Maybe if you cared before, but we know you didn't. As if anyone cared about female athletes before, but looking here you'd think that was more important than peace in the Middle East. But if you support trans people, that equates to you being hateful and anti-woman. But please with your crap, we see through you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:why are we pitting these groups against one another? Like, shouldn't we be bothered by the violence against all of them? I know I am.
It isn't an either/or thing. This post is specifically about the trans community, but that doesn't mean most of us advocating for trans rights do it at the expense of the other groups.
There is definitely not universal agreement with the bolded statement.
Really? You think most people who don't want violence against trans people advocate or ignore other kinds of violence. Get out of here.
I don’t think a lot of trans activists think at all about the safety of women or women’s rights, no. Some do but many don’t.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people making noise about Trans are the GOP.
I thought they were supposed to be more Libtertarian, but I guess that is another thing they lie about. So much for live and let live.
Now, you're just lying. Have you not heard the very loud voice of trans activists shutting down anyone who disagrees with their ideology?
Shutting down how? By asking you to tolerate their existence? They are not the bigoted fascists who control state governments and ban books and ideas and any dissent.
They are the first ones to call people transphobes, bigots, fascists, and Nazis, for disagreeing with their ideology. They are the first ones to get violent and loud at events where women with contrary viewpoints speak.
Trans people existed way before the current spate of woke trans activists showed up on the scene. They were tolerated then. What's different now? Demanding that people affirm their identity and not misgender or dead name them goes way beyond tolerance. Asserting a right to access and occupy women's spaces goes way beyond tolerance.
But you already knew that but it is easier for you to cast dispersion on those who disagree with you than to argue on merits.
They aren’t shutting you or anyone else down, but just want to shut them up. They are just as entitled to freedom of speech and assembly as you are, except you support fascists who control state and local governments and want to shut them up and outlaw them.
We know they want to shut us up but that is not going to happen.
Your existential crisis of victimhoold is truly staggering.
You are a snowflake. No one is harming you. You are still free to be a bigot.
No one is harming trans people either. Get a grip!
Oh, really? You do know that there is a great deal of violence against trans people. Not to mention a very large suicide rate.
The violence against trans people in the US is dwarfed in both proportion and actual amount by violence against other marginalized groups, yet those groups don’t scream “genocide” the minute they encounter mild disagreement.
what other marginalized groups are you referring to?
Pick almost any marginalized group in the US and the statement will be true. But to give specific examples: Native Americans. Women, particularly POC women and women in poverty. Black Americans. The rates of violence against those groups far, far exceed anything experienced by the trans community.
Not true.
It is entirely true. The only way your original statement even approaches reality is if you take the position that domestic violence doesn’t count as violence. Is that your position?
The reality is that trans Americans are a safer population than many, many other marginalized groups in the US.