Anonymous
05/09/2023 18:16
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cities threatening to get rid of tax breaks for companies if they don’t RTO, because apparently small businesses are suffering, downtowns are becoming ghost towns, CRE values are plummeting & public transportation is being crime-filled due to normies no longer taking it.
Public transit is doomed. After 3 years of hygiene obsession and isolation, cramming onto subway trains is just too traumatic for most people. If they are RTO for 3 days a week, they can drive the super commute for those 3 days and recover before the weekend. Still better than before times and train transit.
People are full on murdering each other on trains. Traffic is going to get really really bad, but more people will invest in AI cruise control and watch movies as their car creeps along following the car in front of it.
Not “most people”. The amount of riders on bus and metro still keeps going up and hasn’t leveled off. My most COVID careful friend started taking metro again, but still masks. Most people have also started flying again.
Nobody is wearing masks.
I do. And yes I know I am in the minority, but I’m wearing mine. There were a couple of mask wearers at the airport this weekend as well.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 18:15
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
99.99% of desk jobs can be dove fully remote
Anonymous
05/09/2023 18:12
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These companies didn’t push back at ALL during those useless lockdowns and stay at home orders. People were allowed to WFH and found out they liked it. And now they don’t want to go back.
They should’ve pushed back against the Covid BS but they didn’t.
No one wants to go back to the office including myself.
You reap what you sow.
Exactly. They created this mess. Forcing people to work remotely in March 2020-July 2020 made sense. But they pushed it well into 2021/2022 unnecessarily even after it was known that Covid was only life threatening for people who had pre-existing conditions/ older frail people. There was no real reason the majority of the healthy workforce had to work remotely for nearly 3 years. What did they expect would happen?
You probably make a good point. I just checked with two different friends in Florida about RTO work. Florida is primarily full-time back to work or hybrid, depending on the job. Florida never shut down. I’m waiting to hear from friends in Philly and Seattle about the corporate culture for RTO in those areas.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 17:57
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Commute and traffic were awful this week on the beltway.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 17:51
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:We (Fed, hybrid but heavily in-person) had two resignations at the end of last week to take jobs with more remote work. We will not be able to replace them at their skill level because the work is specialized. Leadership is furious with OMB.
Not fed govt, but we had two resignations last week, too, and both left for fully remote jobs. These weren't highly skilled specialists, though.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 17:14
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We (Fed, hybrid but heavily in-person) had two resignations at the end of last week to take jobs with more remote work. We will not be able to replace them at their skill level because the work is specialized. Leadership is furious with OMB.
The paper pushing Fed is a drain on society and GDP as it produces nothing and sucks up tax dollars that could be actually used to produce something.
The more that quit the better.
Yes, better for talented individuals to do more important work like working for a social media app company instead. SMH.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 17:12
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:We (Fed, hybrid but heavily in-person) had two resignations at the end of last week to take jobs with more remote work. We will not be able to replace them at their skill level because the work is specialized. Leadership is furious with OMB.
The paper pushing Fed is a drain on society and GDP as it produces nothing and sucks up tax dollars that could be actually used to produce something.
The more that quit the better.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 16:45
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord are there people who actually believe that someone shopping at Target at 2 pm is not capable of being supremely productive for their company? How antiquated.
It certainly means one is driving around polluting the environment just as if one is commuting the work. Try to keep track of your arguments.
Nope.
My commute to work is 45 min 2x day. My commute to Target is 7 minutes. There is no Target on the way to work or the way home so I would still end up doing drive up or going to the store but it would be at 9 pm at night after my kid goes to bed because I wouldn't be home until 6 pm and spend the next 2.5 hours doing the dinner-bath-play-dishes-pack-readbooks dance.
So my total driving time is 14 minutes versus 104 minutes.
Replace that with any store or task and it's the same. I even used to go to Costco, the farmers market, or Aldi on my lunch breaks because that meant I had more time in the evening. So I was driving to work, doing errands at lunch, and then driving home.
STILL LESS DRIVING.
Well, others who run the same errands travel further distances. And the pp said they use to eat lunch in the office and now got to grocery store. Many use mass transit for work commuting.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 16:35
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
We (Fed, hybrid but heavily in-person) had two resignations at the end of last week to take jobs with more remote work. We will not be able to replace them at their skill level because the work is specialized. Leadership is furious with OMB.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 15:27
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord are there people who actually believe that someone shopping at Target at 2 pm is not capable of being supremely productive for their company? How antiquated.
It certainly means one is driving around polluting the environment just as if one is commuting the work. Try to keep track of your arguments.
Nope.
My commute to work is 45 min 2x day. My commute to Target is 7 minutes. There is no Target on the way to work or the way home so I would still end up doing drive up or going to the store but it would be at 9 pm at night after my kid goes to bed because I wouldn't be home until 6 pm and spend the next 2.5 hours doing the dinner-bath-play-dishes-pack-readbooks dance.
So my total driving time is 14 minutes versus 104 minutes.
Replace that with any store or task and it's the same. I even used to go to Costco, the farmers market, or Aldi on my lunch breaks because that meant I had more time in the evening. So I was driving to work, doing errands at lunch, and then driving home.
STILL LESS DRIVING.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 14:52
Subject: Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord are there people who actually believe that someone shopping at Target at 2 pm is not capable of being supremely productive for their company? How antiquated.
It certainly means one is driving around polluting the environment just as if one is commuting the work. Try to keep track of your arguments.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 14:43
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.
No they don't. That's just something micromanaging boomers in worthless middle management positions say without any evidence to support their claims.
Younger workers have also never done commutes for 10-20 years yet and don't have kids. Let's hear their opinions when they get closer to 40 and have wasted thousands of hours of their lives sitting in traffic or taking public transportation just to get to work.
This a thousand times.
That’s just something middle aged millenials say so they can pick their kids up from school and not pay for aftercare.
Seriously, you could do this all day.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 12:16
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Being in Boston as an unattached, childless, energetic 22 year old who can afford to live alone sounds amazing.
In a tiny run down walk up apartment. She also could live at home for free.
My own company headquartered in NYC the class of 2020, 2021,2022 and now 2023 all live near the office as they assumed wrongly we be opening up soon.
There’s a reason that’s free.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 12:12
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
And how are you supposed to date & f*ck if you have to drive to get anywhere? Where are you going to meet people? PP are you okay with your DD bringing partners home?
Anonymous
05/09/2023 12:10
Subject: Re:Companies are on the war path against remote work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Being in Boston as an unattached, childless, energetic 22 year old who can afford to live alone sounds amazing.
In a tiny run down walk up apartment. She also could live at home for free.
My own company headquartered in NYC the class of 2020, 2021,2022 and now 2023 all live near the office as they assumed wrongly we be opening up soon.
Who the heck wants to live at their parents’ house out in the burbs as an adult unless they absolutely have to (financially)?