Anonymous
08/01/2022 11:03
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.
NAILED IT!
Anonymous
08/01/2022 11:00
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
-1/10 at being funny. Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.[/quote]
+1000 Sums up this thread perfectly!
NAILED IT!
Anonymous
08/01/2022 10:52
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Why is MoCo pushing a book about sexuality for 5th graders going into 6th grade. I’m not having my kid read this book, and I find it extremely concerning that MoCo is pushing this. What is middle school going to be like? Are you not cool if you aren’t LGBT or gasp not yet sexual as a pre teen? What are other parents doing to complain.
My rising 4th grader and her friends discuss sexuality (NOT sex). They're at an all-girls school and have open discussions about sexuality and how they feel. My daughter also talks openly with me about what she and her friends talk about. I've created an environment where she's comfortable asking me ANYTHING because I'd rather she ask me than get misinformation elsewhere. I also have talks with her when I do audits of her text messages and phone calls. We're a hetero/cis-gen family (if I've written that incorrectly, I apologize).
You need to get a grip because your poor child is already having these conversations and may not feel comfortable talking to you about it.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 10:46
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
If we’re going to define a book that mentions something as “encouraging kids to explore” that thing, then MCPS has a ton of books that encourage kids to explore Christianity. Certainly anything that mentions Pilgrims, or founding father or the Civil Rights movement, or a character celebrating Christmas would count.
+1. Not to mention you can take a World Religions class in high school. You can join an afterschool prayer group or, as SCOTUS just decided this term, your football coach can pray with the team on the 50 yard line.
None of those are required by the school.
Have you read a modern book on the Pilgrims or the Founding Fathers? I am guessing not.
It’d be nice if the right recognized that the founding fathers wanted nothing to do with religion and most of them were deists. Everyone should pick up a modern book about the founding bc fathers so they can shut up about this country being based on Christianity.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 10:43
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.
Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)
When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.
It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.
That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.
Talking about who? Talking about what?
MCPS starts introducing kids to the idea of being non-binary or trans in ES. There are boos available in the library and the librarians will sometimes choose these LGBQT-friendly books to read to the kids.
You’re delusional if you don’t think they know this without any help from mcps or a book. Join the rest of us in the real world.
So throughout history, there were all of these non-binary/trans people suffering in silence, and only now they have the freedom to burst forth? I think you are the one who is delusional to discount the impact of social sanction of these "conditions." Any troubled kid is now treated as "brave" and "cool," getting special attention from adults and peers at school and work if they articulate discomfort with the normal process of puberty and/or body self-image.
Ummm, yes actually. Do you think being trans is a new concept? People did suffer in silence. They didn’t have communities for support. That is the entire point of this book. Now people don’t have to suffer in silence, they can find supportive people to surround themselves with. And if you’re binary and straight, it teaches you to be empathetic to others. It’s not a how to manual on “how to be non-binary”. That wouldn’t work anyway if you knew anything about being trans and you sound so uneducated that I’m sure you haven’t spent a single moment researching. Be better.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 10:00
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
If we’re going to define a book that mentions something as “encouraging kids to explore” that thing, then MCPS has a ton of books that encourage kids to explore Christianity. Certainly anything that mentions Pilgrims, or founding father or the Civil Rights movement, or a character celebrating Christmas would count.
+1. Not to mention you can take a World Religions class in high school. You can join an afterschool prayer group or, as SCOTUS just decided this term, your football coach can pray with the team on the 50 yard line.
None of those are required by the school.
Have you read a modern book on the Pilgrims or the Founding Fathers? I am guessing not.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 09:59
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.
Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)
When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.
It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.
That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.
Talking about who? Talking about what?
MCPS starts introducing kids to the idea of being non-binary or trans in ES. There are boos available in the library and the librarians will sometimes choose these LGBQT-friendly books to read to the kids.
You’re delusional if you don’t think they know this without any help from mcps or a book. Join the rest of us in the real world.
So throughout history, there were all of these non-binary/trans people suffering in silence, and only now they have the freedom to burst forth? I think you are the one who is delusional to discount the impact of social sanction of these "conditions." Any troubled kid is now treated as "brave" and "cool," getting special attention from adults and peers at school and work if they articulate discomfort with the normal process of puberty and/or body self-image.
Anonymous
08/01/2022 09:43
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
-1/10 at being funny. Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.[/quote]
+1000 Sums up this thread perfectly!
Anonymous
08/01/2022 00:26
Subject: Re:“Rick” summer reading
Undercover Boss needs a spin-off: Undercover Parent!
Please come to my MCPS MS during one of the mere minutes-long class transition periods and post about what you hear in a 6th grade hallway, let alone an 8th grade one! You would be unnerved.
This book was not assigned broadly by MCPS, but probably chosen by this particular school (and their own teachers in the trenches) based on some of the sensitivity-training they deemed necessary to change the conversation and to better the culture of their school. Clearly, all of us need more training in sensitivity.
Please don't be the center of your own universe. The outlier anecdotes on this thread (many of which seem to rely heavily on parental delusion and/or are FAR past the expiration-date memories regarding what curriculum is or should be) do not flip the script or undermine what is known to be true, authentic and unfiltered to most . Yours is simply just a... cool story, bruh... No Cap
Please come to my MCPS MS during one of the mere minutes-long class transition periods and post about what you hear in a 6th grade hallway, let alone an 8th grade one! You would be unnerved.
This book was not assigned broadly by MCPS, but probably chosen by this particular school (and their own teachers in the trenches) based on some of the sensitivity-training they deemed necessary to change the conversation and to better the culture of their school. Clearly, all of us need more training in sensitivity.
Please don't be the center of your own universe. The outlier anecdotes on this thread (many of which seem to rely heavily on parental delusion and/or are FAR past the expiration-date memories regarding what curriculum is or should be) do not flip the script or undermine what is known to be true, authentic and unfiltered to most . Yours is simply just a... cool story, bruh... No Cap
Anonymous
07/31/2022 20:19
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
If we’re going to define a book that mentions something as “encouraging kids to explore” that thing, then MCPS has a ton of books that encourage kids to explore Christianity. Certainly anything that mentions Pilgrims, or founding father or the Civil Rights movement, or a character celebrating Christmas would count.
+1. Not to mention you can take a World Religions class in high school. You can join an afterschool prayer group or, as SCOTUS just decided this term, your football coach can pray with the team on the 50 yard line.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 18:44
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
-1/10 at being funny. Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.
I like the acceptance message. I think the ‘intro to victim groups’ ideology is unnecessary.
Listen, if you are like me and feel that 50% of what is going on is social contagion… well let’s make sure the schools get personally involved in spreading the contagion. Farther than culture, YouTube, social, friends are already doing.
Acceptance is great. Please accept my truth here.
Have you read the book? This seems like a comment from someone who hasn't read the book.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 18:33
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
-1/10 at being funny. Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.
I like the acceptance message. I think the ‘intro to victim groups’ ideology is unnecessary.
Listen, if you are like me and feel that 50% of what is going on is social contagion… well let’s make sure the schools get personally involved in spreading the contagion. Farther than culture, YouTube, social, friends are already doing.
Acceptance is great. Please accept my truth here.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 18:26
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
-1/10 at being funny. Such low effort. The book in question is about a kid who feels like they don’t fit in in middle school. It explores themes of acceptance. Apparently parents in this county have a difficult time separating sexuality and being an ally/ finding a community of people who you feel comfortable with. That’s all the book is about but you imbeciles in here can’t be bothered to actually read the book to understand what you’re so “outraged” about. It’s pathetic.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 18:14
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.
Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.
+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.
I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...
Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.
I mean, the kids are going to be exposed to some of the things in the Kama Sutra anyway. Kids learn things in MS whether you like it or not.
Open your mind and be more tolerant. Let’s see a lesson on the Kama Sutra as summer reading.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 17:03
Subject: “Rick” summer reading
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are state laws that require informing parents of the content of sexual materials and allowing parents the right to opt their kids out of these types of discussions. As a matter of the law. The Supreme Court also recognizes the rights of parents, you know that Court that created the right for gay marriage? Although pushing this agenda for kids I can 100% assure you will result in that right being overturned like Roe v Wade and left to the states. Keep pushing on kids this is what you will achieve. The Florida Gov sees how effective this is and is taking it National guaranteed.
[/quote]
You're not even informed enough to have a voice that carries any weight in this discussion. This story has nothing to do with anything sexual. It's about a kid who is confused about his place in the world and he's starting to figure it out. Much like most middle schoolers are whether they are gay, straight, binary, non-binary. It's just telling the same tale as old as time in a way that shows kids acceptance and empathy for the LGBTQ2S+ community. [/quote]
What is 2S?[/quote]
Why is it no one on DCUM can answer their own questions? A two second Google search provides you with the answer. Probably took shorter for me to look up than it did for you to post. But I'm sure the point of your post was to be snarky that they've added more to the acronym. It stands lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, and two-spirit. Do your own homework next time. [/quote]
Nah. If you are going to post a term that might not be well-known, you should explain it.
What is ‘two-spirit’?[/quote]
How lazy are you? No wonder you’re ignorant, you don’t bother to educate yourself, you expect everyone else to do it for you. Look it up yourself. Or don’t. Continue being ignorant.
[/quote]
You're not even informed enough to have a voice that carries any weight in this discussion. This story has nothing to do with anything sexual. It's about a kid who is confused about his place in the world and he's starting to figure it out. Much like most middle schoolers are whether they are gay, straight, binary, non-binary. It's just telling the same tale as old as time in a way that shows kids acceptance and empathy for the LGBTQ2S+ community. [/quote]
What is 2S?[/quote]
Why is it no one on DCUM can answer their own questions? A two second Google search provides you with the answer. Probably took shorter for me to look up than it did for you to post. But I'm sure the point of your post was to be snarky that they've added more to the acronym. It stands lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, and two-spirit. Do your own homework next time. [/quote]
Nah. If you are going to post a term that might not be well-known, you should explain it.
What is ‘two-spirit’?[/quote]
How lazy are you? No wonder you’re ignorant, you don’t bother to educate yourself, you expect everyone else to do it for you. Look it up yourself. Or don’t. Continue being ignorant.