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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Unless you’re a tax cheat there should be no reason for you to worry.

Not true. I have a friend who worked out a payment plan with the IRS. Signed contracts, everything. Finished all documents, all records kept, etc. When the last payment was made, they set up pay garnishment at his wife's place of business and told him "we are done with you when WE say we are done with you"

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

I agree, but I believe those investments should be in the future, not fossil fuels, which have received trillions in subsidies over the past many decades. Why invest more in gas and coal when they cause things like asthma, that we then have to cover via the ACA? Better to ensure cleaner energy sources that reduce air pollution and dependence on foreign sources that also include the military and transportation costs.

When you look at nations that have tried to flip the switch into green energy without making continued investments in traditional fuel sources, they have had to backtrack on it and spend even more than if they had done a thoughtful phase out. The green energy market just isnt ready to scale for the entire nation, and the thought that it would fill the void created by reducing investment in traditional sources just hasnt panned out well. That doesnt mean the green dream is dead or will never work, it will just take longer. In the meantime, we need to reduce our risk exposure by continuing to invest in oil and gas.

We have been slow walking ANY transition whatsoever because of American republicans. You are using their talking points to argue against green energy development. If people like you wouldn’t stand in the way then we would already be far ahead of the concerns that you outline. It takes vision and investment to bring new technologies online.

DP.
That is just bull$hit. The technology is not there yet. You think private companies are slow walking innovation? You are crazy.
PP is right. We are nowhere near ready to go as green as Joe thinks we can. And, we are reaching a point where doing what he wants to do will not only threaten our economy, but will also threaten our national security.

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Why do you support tax cheaters?

Have you tried calling the IRS in the past three years? You sit on hold for an hour and then they cut you off. There is no way to follow-up when you get a dreaded "clarification letter" and in the meanwhile tax cheats are getting away with a collective BILLIONS of dollars.

Let's get something straight. They are more than doubling the size of the IRS. And, I will pretty much guarantee you that more employees will not improve service when you call them. And, yes, I have called the IRS - 2 years ago. Didn't wait long and I received a prompt answer to my question.
It is not about tax cheaters. When you receive notice of an IRS audit, the prudent thing to do is to contact an accountant/tax attorney to be an advocate or to be sure everything is in order. Big companies have these people on the payroll. The average American doesn't and many don't have the resources to pay for them. You could do everything right, and still have to pay thousands out of pocket because the IRS wants to scrutinize your tax return.

This is just a really poor way to spend tax payer's money. More border agents... yep. More police officers .... yep. Increased pay for military.... yep.

The priorities of this administration is just so out of touch with most Americans. And, I sincerely hope they suffer in the midterms and 2024 as a result of this bill and all the other crap they have (and haven't) done.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

I agree, but I believe those investments should be in the future, not fossil fuels, which have received trillions in subsidies over the past many decades. Why invest more in gas and coal when they cause things like asthma, that we then have to cover via the ACA? Better to ensure cleaner energy sources that reduce air pollution and dependence on foreign sources that also include the military and transportation costs.

When you look at nations that have tried to flip the switch into green energy without making continued investments in traditional fuel sources, they have had to backtrack on it and spend even more than if they had done a thoughtful phase out. The green energy market just isnt ready to scale for the entire nation, and the thought that it would fill the void created by reducing investment in traditional sources just hasnt panned out well. That doesnt mean the green dream is dead or will never work, it will just take longer. In the meantime, we need to reduce our risk exposure by continuing to invest in oil and gas.

We have been slow walking ANY transition whatsoever because of American republicans. You are using their talking points to argue against green energy development. If people like you wouldn’t stand in the way then we would already be far ahead of the concerns that you outline. It takes vision and investment to bring new technologies online.

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Well the IRS pays for all those people so…

No. The tax payers do. The govt. does not generate money. It takes it from the people.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

I agree, but I believe those investments should be in the future, not fossil fuels, which have received trillions in subsidies over the past many decades. Why invest more in gas and coal when they cause things like asthma, that we then have to cover via the ACA? Better to ensure cleaner energy sources that reduce air pollution and dependence on foreign sources that also include the military and transportation costs.

When you look at nations that have tried to flip the switch into green energy without making continued investments in traditional fuel sources, they have had to backtrack on it and spend even more than if they had done a thoughtful phase out. The green energy market just isnt ready to scale for the entire nation, and the thought that it would fill the void created by reducing investment in traditional sources just hasnt panned out well. That doesnt mean the green dream is dead or will never work, it will just take longer. In the meantime, we need to reduce our risk exposure by continuing to invest in oil and gas.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

I agree, but I believe those investments should be in the future, not fossil fuels, which have received trillions in subsidies over the past many decades. Why invest more in gas and coal when they cause things like asthma, that we then have to cover via the ACA? Better to ensure cleaner energy sources that reduce air pollution and dependence on foreign sources that also include the military and transportation costs.

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Why do you support tax cheaters?

Have you tried calling the IRS in the past three years? You sit on hold for an hour and then they cut you off. There is no way to follow-up when you get a dreaded "clarification letter" and in the meanwhile tax cheats are getting away with a collective BILLIONS of dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't people in red states afford to buy electric cars or solar panels?

Because of Republican policies, that's why. GOP policies have kept them down, in lower brackets, and have not provided the subsidies needed to help shift to a greener more sustainable economy.

Huh? Ev cars are too expensive. They are mainly for the rich. The new bill puts a 150k cap on the credit but no one making under 150k should be buying a car that costs more than 10k which excludes all evs

A Volt or Leaf is a fracrtion of the cost of a vanity F-250 pick up truck. just sayin'

Vanity pick up?
You do realize that people in rural areas (and even some in cities) use those pickups for work and to manage their property.
An EV car won't cut it for them.

Yes, I do.

At the same time, there are millions of pick-up drivers that are driving them for their status, and not to tote hay bales to their animals.

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Well the IRS pays for all those people so…

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Unless you’re a tax cheat there should be no reason for you to worry.

Weird how the self-proclaimed "Party of Fiscal Responsibility" suddenly gets up in arms when you suggest properly funding the department responsible for maintaining that responsibility.

They don’t believe in taxes. They just want to mooch off of the more economically viable liberal “leftist” cities.

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Unless you’re a tax cheat there should be no reason for you to worry.

Weird how the self-proclaimed "Party of Fiscal Responsibility" suddenly gets up in arms when you suggest properly funding the department responsible for maintaining that responsibility.

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Unless you’re a tax cheat there should be no reason for you to worry.

The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.