Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:21
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't this the judicial activism that the cons whine so much about?
No, because there is no right to abortion in the Constitution. It’s a state issue and always has been.
So was it in state constitutions before SCOTUS took it up?
Anything not specifically stated in the Constitution falls to the states. That’s how it’s been since it was written. Amend or shut up.
You didn’t answer the question.
I did. It’s not judicial activism. It’s upholding the Constitution. Amend or shut up.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:20
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.
You're in the minority full stop.
The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.
Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.
Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.
Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.
Nobody gets themselves pregnant.
Clumsily worded but point remains. If you have such a health care issue with giving birth, then see to it that you don't get pregnant.
My “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when I was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy. We had been trying for years and desperately wanted that to be a healthy pregnancy. I begged the doctor to find a way to make it work.
An acquaintance’s “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when her (very much wanted, planned for, IVF) baby was diagnosed with a fatal condition that also impacted her health and future ability to carry another pregnancy. She found out during a routine ultrasound at 19 weeks.
A college friend’s health care issue” with giving birth was the additional mental trauma that would result from being forced to carry to term a pregnancy that was caused by rape. A rape she could only remember in flashbacks, because the guy had slipped rohypnol into her drink at a party. She was suicidal already before she even learned about the pregnancy. Thank God for Planned Parenthood.
In all three cases, most states allow abortion. Rare and legal.
Which states will still “allow” it after Roe falls? What documentation will someone need to provide to their doctor, their hospital, their friendly local prosecutor, once new laws are in place?
Speculation doesn’t count.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:18
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can't force people to give birth. The fight for legal abortions has to start over. Shame on this court
They can let women die, like Savita Halapanavar in Ireland.
JFC. There are no individual states in Ireland. There are counties that must follow the country laws. This is why you WANT state decisions.
And you have individual states here poised to outlaw abortion. You honestly think a similar situation couldn't happen in one of those states?
We have 50 states.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:17
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't this the judicial activism that the cons whine so much about?
No, because there is no right to abortion in the Constitution. It’s a state issue and always has been.
So was it in state constitutions before SCOTUS took it up?
Anything not specifically stated in the Constitution falls to the states. That’s how it’s been since it was written. Amend or shut up.
You didn’t answer the question.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:17
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.
You're in the minority full stop.
The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.
Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.
Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.
Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.
Nobody gets themselves pregnant.
Clumsily worded but point remains. If you have such a health care issue with giving birth, then see to it that you don't get pregnant.
My “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when I was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy. We had been trying for years and desperately wanted that to be a healthy pregnancy. I begged the doctor to find a way to make it work.
An acquaintance’s “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when her (very much wanted, planned for, IVF) baby was diagnosed with a fatal condition that also impacted her health and future ability to carry another pregnancy. She found out during a routine ultrasound at 19 weeks.
A college friend’s health care issue” with giving birth was the additional mental trauma that would result from being forced to carry to term a pregnancy that was caused by rape. A rape she could only remember in flashbacks, because the guy had slipped rohypnol into her drink at a party. She was suicidal already before she even learned about the pregnancy. Thank God for Planned Parenthood.
In all three cases, most states allow abortion. Rare and legal.
Which states will still “allow” it after Roe falls? What documentation will someone need to provide to their doctor, their hospital, their friendly local prosecutor, once new laws are in place?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:13
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority on DCUM but I think this is good news and I hope it comes to pass.
You're in the minority full stop.
The vast majority of Americans do not believe the government should be making health care decisions for you.
Like I said, I know I'm in the minority on DCUM. And abortion is not a "health care decision," in the vast majority of cases.
Choosing not to give birth, which is statistically more dangerous than having an abortion, is a “health care decision” in every effing case.
Then don't get yourself pregnant. Problem solved.
Nobody gets themselves pregnant.
Clumsily worded but point remains. If you have such a health care issue with giving birth, then see to it that you don't get pregnant.
My “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when I was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy. We had been trying for years and desperately wanted that to be a healthy pregnancy. I begged the doctor to find a way to make it work.
An acquaintance’s “health care issue” with giving birth occurred when her (very much wanted, planned for, IVF) baby was diagnosed with a fatal condition that also impacted her health and future ability to carry another pregnancy. She found out during a routine ultrasound at 19 weeks.
A college friend’s health care issue” with giving birth was the additional mental trauma that would result from being forced to carry to term a pregnancy that was caused by rape. A rape she could only remember in flashbacks, because the guy had slipped rohypnol into her drink at a party. She was suicidal already before she even learned about the pregnancy. Thank God for Planned Parenthood.
In all three cases, most states allow abortion. Rare and legal.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:13
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Congrats RBG!! Your selfishness will also be part of your legacy.
- democrat
- democrat
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:11
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the Democrats are in position to lose heavily in a few months then a "leak" that’s never happened before shows up, hoping it will outrage enough to reverse that trend.
Anyone else think it’s not real?
Verdict is out in June - long before elections. So…
What do you want to bet that as this story unspools we find out that SCOTUS intended to hold this opinion until after the midterms...
Everyone who follows this knows it was going to come out in June.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:11
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the Democrats are in position to lose heavily in a few months then a "leak" that’s never happened before shows up, hoping it will outrage enough to reverse that trend.
Anyone else think it’s not real?
Verdict is out in June - long before elections. So…
What do you want to bet that as this story unspools we find out that SCOTUS intended to hold this opinion until after the midterms...
Probably.
Well it had some typos in it so, yeah, I suspect that would be the case.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:09
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can't force people to give birth. The fight for legal abortions has to start over. Shame on this court
They can let women die, like Savita Halapanavar in Ireland.
JFC. There are no individual states in Ireland. There are counties that must follow the country laws. This is why you WANT state decisions.
And you have individual states here poised to outlaw abortion. You honestly think a similar situation couldn't happen in one of those states?
+1 Just like Ireland used to be before women mobilized across the globe to defeat the ruling Catholic Church, something that doesn’t *officially* exist in the US?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:09
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the Democrats are in position to lose heavily in a few months then a "leak" that’s never happened before shows up, hoping it will outrage enough to reverse that trend.
Anyone else think it’s not real?
Verdict is out in June - long before elections. So…
What do you want to bet that as this story unspools we find out that SCOTUS intended to hold this opinion until after the midterms...
Probably.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:09
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Democrats have just won the 2022 midterms.
Yes, yes they have. By a huge effing margin.
No. Abortion is not a high priority issue for most people.
That is a load of bull crap.
Once Dems started in with abortion can extend beyond birth or at birth, you lost a LOT of people.
Beyond birth? You mean in cases where the baby is born with a terminal condition, and parents elect to take no further measures to prolong life? That's palliative care or hospice, in some situations...not abortion "beyond birth".
What on earth are you talking about?
They are just crazy pants. It's called "death" when a baby is born and then dies. It happens people, even in the womb. Death happens folks, it's not always "abortions." These conservatives are literally crazy.
I thank God I have already gone through menopause every day since 2016.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the Democrats are in position to lose heavily in a few months then a "leak" that’s never happened before shows up, hoping it will outrage enough to reverse that trend.
Anyone else think it’s not real?
Verdict is out in June - long before elections. So…
What do you want to bet that as this story unspools we find out that SCOTUS intended to hold this opinion until after the midterms...
Anonymous
05/03/2022 01:03
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They can't force people to give birth. The fight for legal abortions has to start over. Shame on this court
They can let women die, like Savita Halapanavar in Ireland.
JFC. There are no individual states in Ireland. There are counties that must follow the country laws. This is why you WANT state decisions.
And you have individual states here poised to outlaw abortion. You honestly think a similar situation couldn't happen in one of those states?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 00:43
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they do overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think republicans have kept up with advances in genetic testing.
Be prepared to pay for child support for 18 years.
Plus more wives will die, if they have medical problems in childbirth. It's like they don't care or don't think it will happen to them.
This will only affect poor women, especially those of color.
This is what the conservatives want right?
More people on welfare! Hooray!
No, what conservatives want is more dead Black women.
As a black man who is a conservative, when I read white people write stuff like this anonymously it makes me uncomfortable.
How do yo know it was a white person? Anyhow…when conservatives single-mindedly pursue policy outcomes that increase the mortality of black women, yes, we will note that conservatives want more dead black women. It’s the natural and intended consequences of their policy choices. So yes. Do feel uncomfortable. You should.