Anonymous wrote:Putin has been planning this with China since probably 2014 ish... if not earlier

Covid was the only non-planned on event that delayed the invasion by 2 years.

This is why he met with Xi just before the invasion AND signed a pact with Azerbajian at same time.

Wake UP people- its just like this in any world war

Putin did not have the relationship with China in 2014, much less earlier, to have made planning this at all realistic.

Putin has been planning this with China since probably 2014 ish... if not earlier

Covid was the only non-planned on event that delayed the invasion by 2 years.

This is why he met with Xi just before the invasion AND signed a pact with Azerbajian at same time.

Wake UP people- its just like this in any world war

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

According to some of the intercepted calls home the families are cheering on the war crimes.

There's plenty of support for Z in Russia and by Russians. Maybe they've been brainwashed by propaganda but it has worked. They support 1) fixing "the" Ukraine and 2) taking it over/back

Please see the polls I posted yesterday. The majority of Russians do not support it.

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Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...

I’m giving it a week before some European leader says “America, you have always been a good friend of Europe; but your are always late to the game. Go ahead and do your American isolationist thing and show up when you are ready.”

Literally any EU leader has the chance to be a world leader; some actor from Ukraine as their president currently has the title.

The U.S. is behind all of this. We just don’t want our fingerprints on it this publicly. Poland was not supposed to ID the US base in Germany as the exchange place.

Correct. But all the communication blunders waste so much time and are so frustrating for everyone involved.

Obviously Russia knows we're all behind Ukraine armaments. But in our weird human world, as long as there isn't a red line moment such as enforcement of a no-fly zone with our pilots, and it can't point to one instance of our armies physically setting foot in Ukraine to deliver arms, we're cool, no WWIII.

So our leaders have to be extremely careful at what they declare publicly.

Except, in reality, WWIII started a couple weeks ago.

Don't believe that, then look up how WWI and WWII gradually started and follow the same Domino trail that you can see now AND the interconnectedness

In the last 2 weeks we have:
* 2-3 million refugees poring out of one European country into the borders of 4-5 European neighbors
* the price of Oil world wide has sky rocketed as has that of Gold
* banks have suspended trading and stocks sales in Russia are suspened
* Trillions in wealth is being made and vaporized in the last week and for ONE reason: the world is at WAR. The war front is world wide even if the physical battle is confined
* new alliances are being negotiated as old ones fail
* Its become fashionable to champion Ukraine, but what this is really about is the power of oil, the interconnectedness of banks, the degree of dependency the world's " democracies" have allowed themselves to develop towards both ill begotten money from Russian oligarchs and cheap Loans from China

The US and EU will support Zelensky and Ukraine as long as they have something to gain from the realignment, but not if they don't ( enter Israeli PM as a spoiler for any Iran deal )

THAT is a world at war, but the real proof, I suppose will be come summer when there is a shortfall of half the 3rd worlds wheat, mass starvation and then the SH+T wlll really hit the fan

Our only chance: fight back hard and defeat Putin this week- do it NOW

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

According to some of the intercepted calls home the families are cheering on the war crimes.

There's plenty of support for Z in Russia and by Russians. Maybe they've been brainwashed by propaganda but it has worked. They support 1) fixing "the" Ukraine and 2) taking it over/back

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

According to some of the intercepted calls home the families are cheering on the war crimes.

Exactly, that's my point.

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

According to some of the intercepted calls home the families are cheering on the war crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

Right. And these are 22 year old conscripts. They didn’t know what they were being sent to do.

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Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

And that's one of the problems. The run of the mill soldier is now completely complicit. They have now committed war crimes. They have to justify their actions to stay sane and pretend that they didn't. Their families have to believe the propaganda because if they dont then the realization hits that their loved ones are evil. This is where and how the window for internal change closes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Ukraine has about 45, so 98 is a huge addition.

Wow, that's a huge infusion at the same time Russia is transporting in plumbing repair vans for reinforcement.

It’s about two squadrons worth of MiGs (9.12 and a couple of UBs) that were due to be replaced anyway with F-16V. It’s a great gesture for sure and I love how the Poles are leading NATOs response but let’s keep things in perspective.

Poland put Biden in a tough spot. Poland basically is saying step up America and do the deal out of Germany so we are all in this together.

OK. So conduct the transfer in Moldova.

But get this done extremely quickly. The Migs are desperately needed today!

The Poles are scared to do this and they have NATO backing. Moldova would be nuts to agree to this.

I really don't understand the reluctance for NATO countries though. They are opening providing billions in weapons to Ukraine. I don't see how fighter jets crosses some line that they haven't already crossed. I suspect the issue is more about whether the US can really replace the Polish MiGs in any timely fashion. I doubt the US has a couple dozen F-16s just sitting around ready to send to Poland.

because gutlessness and spinelessness of the Sheeple are the definers of History just as much as it is shaped by megalomaniac dictators ( Hitler, Stalin )

The 21st Century has many modern advances, but in many ways it is a " wash and repeat " of the 20th century or the 18th century or the .... just pick.

Sickening to watch, isn't it.

PP is dead on: the time is ripe for ANY European country leader to step into this vacuum and become a world leader. Maybe the UK ... maybe Zelensky was invited to Parliament to prime the British public for what an ambitious Boris would like to do: seize all capital assets in the UK for UK treasury and restore the British Empire....AND keep practicing his Churhill hand gestures ...

I feel as bad for each russian killed or injured as I did/do about ISIS fighters.

Spoiler alert - I am really ok when I hear/see ISIS fighters were killed.

Anonymous wrote:The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but let’s be real. The people driving these tanks and trucks don’t give a shit about Ukrainian lives - especially not civilian. They are on their way to shell a major city of millions - which can only be done indiscriminately w/ great loss of civilian life and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They are not in their own country. They know that they are in a country which, militarily, has not attacked Russia (not even for 8 years after Russia first attacked Crimea and Donbas.)

In that sense, I have zero sympathy. Every one of these Russian soldiers knew at some point before this tank convoy got hit, what they were in Ukraine to do. Every soldier has a duty to disobey illegal orders. Many other Russian soldiers have either surrendered, or waked away from their weapons.

The convoy is not faring well. I feel sadness seeing so many lives shuttered for nothing.

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Much like the Polish fighters, this is an offer for the press. They would need to find a way to train the Ukrainians to use them and this system is far less user friendly than what they are getting now.

Right. It’s laughable to think they could realistically transfer this system and train Ukrainians on it in the midst of a war. Then there’s the issue of doing the maintenance, which requires transferring spare parts — again, during a war.

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Much like the Polish fighters, this is an offer for the press. They would need to find a way to train the Ukrainians to use them and this system is far less user friendly than what they are getting now.