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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I highly doubt any teachers have "emptied out" their book shelves. Maybe she got her book banning info from a meme. This book banning thing has been going on for decades and now all of a sudden it's a massive issue for some people. The media loves sheep who go along with whatever the latest grievance is.

You are simply wrong.

Desantis' anti woke laws are threatening teachers.

There are also news stories on this. I have teacher friends in Florida, and yes they gave taken every book out of their classroom.

He is pandering to his base and you are being triggered by his ridiculousness. It's a few counties in one state, so it's not the end of the world. There will be another culture war topic pushed by the media in the next few months and this one will fade away. Remember the bathroom drama not that long ago. Or the pronoun craze that nobody even understands? These are not important issues when you think about real problems like Russia, national debt, aging population, etc. Also, this site very much censors opposing views, so it's quite ironic.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I highly doubt any teachers have "emptied out" their book shelves. Maybe she got her book banning info from a meme. This book banning thing has been going on for decades and now all of a sudden it's a massive issue for some people. The media loves sheep who go along with whatever the latest grievance is.

Your contempt for educators is noted, and typical. RaIsE lIoNs NoT sHeEp, amirite? PP’s two teacher friends are just too stupid, amirite?

NP. If TikTok is to be believed, this new crop is…interesting….

https://www-wesh-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.wesh.com/amp/article/parental-rights-law-florida/41715301?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16664765704948&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wesh.com%2Farticle%2Fparental-rights-law-florida%2F41715301


Above is a link to just one of the stories about what is being done to teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I highly doubt any teachers have "emptied out" their book shelves. Maybe she got her book banning info from a meme. This book banning thing has been going on for decades and now all of a sudden it's a massive issue for some people. The media loves sheep who go along with whatever the latest grievance is.

You are simply wrong.

Desantis' anti woke laws are threatening teachers.

There are also news stories on this. I have teacher friends in Florida, and yes they gave taken every book out of their classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.

It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.

I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.

Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?

DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?

How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.

Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.

Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?

DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.

If you’re shocked, that’s on you. It’s literally what’s depicted in the book, hence why I’m mentioning it.

I tried to post this before and it was either blocked or deleted, so here goes again without correct anatomical terms, in case that's what got it blocked...

1) What is depicted in the book is a simulated act, because the character does not have the necessary anatomy to perform the actual act.

2) This scene is actually an amazing example of respectful consent in a romantic relationship. The character thinks they would like to try that particular act, and the partner is willing. They try it, and main character decides they do not in fact like it. They ask their partner to stop, and they stop. I specifically showed it to my young teens as a great example. I think this one scene should be included in sex ed classes in high school.

I have not read the book but I am the one who posted the link to the right wing website (I’m not a RWNJ, they were the outlet that had them) that featured the images and even in their images it was clear that this is what the deal was. It’s obviously a very respectfully done book and talks about agency, consent and models what a healthy relationship looks like. If this is ban worthy, the skids are greased.

Republicans are stupid and they want everyone to be like them.

Banning books first sign of a Fascist regime

Love it Republicans think the ones in power won't come for them. HAHAHAHAHA

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.

It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?

There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.

It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff

And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?

Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?

No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.

It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.

I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.

Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?

DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?

How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.

Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.

Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?

DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.

If you’re shocked, that’s on you. It’s literally what’s depicted in the book, hence why I’m mentioning it.

I tried to post this before and it was either blocked or deleted, so here goes again without correct anatomical terms, in case that's what got it blocked...

1) What is depicted in the book is a simulated act, because the character does not have the necessary anatomy to perform the actual act.

2) This scene is actually an amazing example of respectful consent in a romantic relationship. The character thinks they would like to try that particular act, and the partner is willing. They try it, and main character decides they do not in fact like it. They ask their partner to stop, and they stop. I specifically showed it to my young teens as a great example. I think this one scene should be included in sex ed classes in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I highly doubt any teachers have "emptied out" their book shelves. Maybe she got her book banning info from a meme. This book banning thing has been going on for decades and now all of a sudden it's a massive issue for some people. The media loves sheep who go along with whatever the latest grievance is.

Your contempt for educators is noted, and typical. RaIsE lIoNs NoT sHeEp, amirite? PP’s two teacher friends are just too stupid, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I highly doubt any teachers have "emptied out" their book shelves. Maybe she got her book banning info from a meme. This book banning thing has been going on for decades and now all of a sudden it's a massive issue for some people. The media loves sheep who go along with whatever the latest grievance is.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I will once again cite the kind of “education” that the GOP wants to make more slack-jawed mouth breathers, from Mean Girls: “And on the third day, God created the Remington bolt-action rifle, so that Man could fight the dinosaurs. And the homosexuals.”

“Amen”

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

I will once again cite the kind of “education” that the GOP wants to make more slack-jawed mouth breathers, from Mean Girls: “And on the third day, God created the Remington bolt-action rifle, so that Man could fight the dinosaurs. And the homosexuals.”

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Yes.

Two of my teacher friends in Florida emptied out their classroom libraries because they didn't know what could even be mentioned anymore because of Florida's draconian laws.

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I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

I’d like to hear from someone who supports these bans to share a story of someone they know who was personally harmed by one of the books banned.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?

Do you mean someone who wrote the banned books? Someone who enjoys one of the banned books? Someone who lives in the banned book area but hasn’t expressed interest in that book? Someone who lives in a banned book area but now can’t access one of the banned books? Someone who lives in an area where a library closed down because the book banners cut off funding or otherwise drove librarians away?

I don’t think this is what you mean but I’ll say yes. Not dramatically affected, but affected. My kids have read (and I think own) some of the books that are popular to ban. My son is trans, and when people try to ban books because of gender issues, it affects him negatively, even if he’s not in an area where those books are hard to access. I can see how it’s distressing to know that there are groups of people who don’t want their kids to even read about or discuss that you exist just because of how you express your gender. We’re not into censoring reading materials, and we encourage exposure to different points of view, so it’s especially shocking to them that parents are not just banning books in their own homes but trying to ban them in schools and public libraries.