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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

And this here epitomizes the D's stance. The poster didn't say anything about liking/agreeing/voting for Trump; just because he/she was turned off by the progressive agenda and haw far it's gone and can't support them anymore, they are called names and written off. Very classy. This is why people are moving away from the left.

Yep. You think I’m the enemy? Fine. I’m the enemy. Voted for Youngkin. Hoping for the best. We’ll see.

It’s very cult like. As long as you’re towing the party line, you’re one of them and awesome and so progressive! The minute you say anything that is even remotely critical of the D’s or any of their policies, you are immediately attacked and written off. It’s kinda scary.

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

Here you go. Facts.

Post about this from Feb 2020:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/951009.page
“Actually, based on the Burbio methodology, this says that *at most* ~40% of US student are in-person right now. Obviously, it's less than that since 100% of families are not choosing in-person.

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. " “

Hey out of state political activist.

We are talking about Virginia public schools, which were closed, vs Virginia private schools which were open.

Not 40% of schools in the US.

I’m a VA parent who saw this all go down. Don’t try to rewrite history.

DC areas schools sent kids back to the classroom around the same time as many other schools in the country. We weren’t an outlier.

Private schools had many more resources available to help them open. Mandates for testing, masking, traveling, etc. Plus, smaller classes and tons more space.

You are not being accurate or truthful.

Which part is inaccurate?

DP. All the stuff about private schools, for one.

Private schools absolutely had more resources. It’s much easier to control the variables and mitigate risk when you are small and can mandate anything you want.

Private schools could open full time with smaller numbers. But Va schools should have been open hybrid in August 2020 - not no in person option for one full year.

Most parents weren't going to send their kids to summer school in 2020 - everyone was pushing to be done with school.

It's misleading to say it was "one full year".

Who's talking about Summer school? You do realize school starts in NOVA in August, right?

If it was "one full year" then you were expecting kids to be in school during summer break?

Again this is why Youngkin won. You are trying to fight about pedantic technologies rather than accept that literally for a full year - March 2020 to March 2021 schools were closed and that really really impacted a lot of people.

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

Here you go. Facts.

Post about this from Feb 2020:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/951009.page
“Actually, based on the Burbio methodology, this says that *at most* ~40% of US student are in-person right now. Obviously, it's less than that since 100% of families are not choosing in-person.

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. " “

Hey out of state political activist.

We are talking about Virginia public schools, which were closed, vs Virginia private schools which were open.

Not 40% of schools in the US.

I’m a VA parent who saw this all go down. Don’t try to rewrite history.

DC areas schools sent kids back to the classroom around the same time as many other schools in the country. We weren’t an outlier.

Private schools had many more resources available to help them open. Mandates for testing, masking, traveling, etc. Plus, smaller classes and tons more space.

You are not being accurate or truthful.

Which part is inaccurate?

DP. All the stuff about private schools, for one.

Private schools absolutely had more resources. It’s much easier to control the variables and mitigate risk when you are small and can mandate anything you want.

Private schools could open full time with smaller numbers. But Va schools should have been open hybrid in August 2020 - not no in person option for one full year.

Most parents weren't going to send their kids to summer school in 2020 - everyone was pushing to be done with school.

It's misleading to say it was "one full year".

Who's talking about Summer school? You do realize school starts in NOVA in August, right?

If it was "one full year" then you were expecting kids to be in school during summer break?

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Anonymous wrote:To continue the Douthat article:

'So Democratic politicians may need to decide what they actually think about the ideas that have swept elite cultural institutions in the past few years. Maybe those ideas are worth defending. Maybe Kendi and DiAngelo are worth celebrating. Maybe school superintendents who recommend their work should be praised for doing so.

If so, Democrats should say so, and fight boldly on that line."

BUT it is really disingenous IMO to say its presence is a totally hallucinated concept in schools. AND voters knew that.

Wow. This is spot on.

Once again, we should be holding Rs accountable for their own bad behavior. Not blaming it on the Ds for not correcting the Rs appropriately.

The Rs insisted on using the term CRT even though it was debunked countless times.

The Rs lied about what is being taught - schools were not teaching that "white people are bad" or pushing reverse racism.

And yet you want to put this bad R behavior on the Ds?

Just come out and openly say that you don't want to teach about systemic racism. And you don't want to promote diversity and inclusion. Stop hiding behind the fake "CRT" label.

This is exactly what got Youngkin elected.

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

Did I say I was okay with his position on race? lol. I never voted for him or any republican so they didn't lose my vote, genius

If you’re voting for Republicans - the party that made its platform “Donald Trump” (literally) - you’re ok w/ their position on race, moron

I voted for Hogan when I lived in Maryland. This generalization doesn’t hold up. Just like voting for Joe Biden is not the equivalent of voting for AOC.

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

Did I say I was okay with his position on race? lol. I never voted for him or any republican so they didn't lose my vote, genius

If you’re voting for Republicans - the party that made its platform “Donald Trump” (literally) - you’re ok w/ their position on race, moron

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

Here you go. Facts.

Post about this from Feb 2020:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/105/951009.page
“Actually, based on the Burbio methodology, this says that *at most* ~40% of US student are in-person right now. Obviously, it's less than that since 100% of families are not choosing in-person.

https://about.burbio.com/methodology/
"• Burbio assigns a learning mode to a school district based on the most in-person option available to the general student population. Thus if a district offers both traditional and virtual options, the district is categorized as Traditional. " “

Hey out of state political activist.

We are talking about Virginia public schools, which were closed, vs Virginia private schools which were open.

Not 40% of schools in the US.

I’m a VA parent who saw this all go down. Don’t try to rewrite history.

DC areas schools sent kids back to the classroom around the same time as many other schools in the country. We weren’t an outlier.

Private schools had many more resources available to help them open. Mandates for testing, masking, traveling, etc. Plus, smaller classes and tons more space.

You are not being accurate or truthful.

Which part is inaccurate?

DP. All the stuff about private schools, for one.

Private schools absolutely had more resources. It’s much easier to control the variables and mitigate risk when you are small and can mandate anything you want.

Private schools could open full time with smaller numbers. But Va schools should have been open hybrid in August 2020 - not no in person option for one full year.

Most parents weren't going to send their kids to summer school in 2020 - everyone was pushing to be done with school.

It's misleading to say it was "one full year".

Who's talking about Summer school? You do realize school starts in NOVA in August, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

Did I say I was okay with his position on race? lol. I never voted for him or any republican so they didn't lose my vote, genius

If you’re voting for Republicans - the party that made its platform “Donald Trump” (literally) - you’re ok w/ their position on race, moron

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Anonymous wrote:To continue the Douthat article:

'So Democratic politicians may need to decide what they actually think about the ideas that have swept elite cultural institutions in the past few years. Maybe those ideas are worth defending. Maybe Kendi and DiAngelo are worth celebrating. Maybe school superintendents who recommend their work should be praised for doing so.

If so, Democrats should say so, and fight boldly on that line."

BUT it is really disingenous IMO to say its presence is a totally hallucinated concept in schools. AND voters knew that.

Wow. This is spot on.

Once again, we should be holding Rs accountable for their own bad behavior. Not blaming it on the Ds for not correcting the Rs appropriately.

The Rs insisted on using the term CRT even though it was debunked countless times.

The Rs lied about what is being taught - schools were not teaching that "white people are bad" or pushing reverse racism.

And yet you want to put this bad R behavior on the Ds?

Just come out and openly say that you don't want to teach about systemic racism. And you don't want to promote diversity and inclusion. Stop hiding behind the fake "CRT" label.

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

Such a typical DCUM post. Assume something about a poster (of which you have zero evidence), then attack them for it. Delightful!

+1..and don’t forget, if all else fails, scream TRUMP

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

And this here epitomizes the D's stance. The poster didn't say anything about liking/agreeing/voting for Trump; just because he/she was turned off by the progressive agenda and haw far it's gone and can't support them anymore, they are called names and written off. Very classy. This is why people are moving away from the left.

Yep. You think I’m the enemy? Fine. I’m the enemy. Voted for Youngkin. Hoping for the best. We’ll see.

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Anonymous wrote:To continue the Douthat article:

'So Democratic politicians may need to decide what they actually think about the ideas that have swept elite cultural institutions in the past few years. Maybe those ideas are worth defending. Maybe Kendi and DiAngelo are worth celebrating. Maybe school superintendents who recommend their work should be praised for doing so.

If so, Democrats should say so, and fight boldly on that line."

BUT it is really disingenous IMO to say its presence is a totally hallucinated concept in schools. AND voters knew that.

Wow. This is spot on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To continue the Douthat article:

'So Democratic politicians may need to decide what they actually think about the ideas that have swept elite cultural institutions in the past few years. Maybe those ideas are worth defending. Maybe Kendi and DiAngelo are worth celebrating. Maybe school superintendents who recommend their work should be praised for doing so.

If so, Democrats should say so, and fight boldly on that line."

BUT it is really disingenous IMO to say its presence is a totally hallucinated concept in schools. AND voters knew that.

What is the argument against recommending racial equity reading?

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Anonymous wrote:The democrats lost my vote in the past couple of years. I voted democrat on EVERY single ticket since Bush v. Gore, but I have not voted since painfully casting a vote for Hilary nor do I intend to ever again. I can't in good conscience vote for a party who comes to conclusions like, "Advanced programs racist because too many asians, so eliminate them" (I am white). Sorry, you lost me and I hope you lose others with your race baiting

And yet you’re perfectly fine with Donald’s position on race? OK cool. We know now not to give a flying F**k what you think.

And this here epitomizes the D's stance. The poster didn't say anything about liking/agreeing/voting for Trump; just because he/she was turned off by the progressive agenda and haw far it's gone and can't support them anymore, they are called names and written off. Very classy. This is why people are moving away from the left.