Anonymous
05/19/2022 16:14
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Actually completely different. An embryo is not a baby.
Fine. Abortionists like you can say you're pregnant with an embryo. Women i know say they're pregnant with a baby.
I call my dog a baby. Does that make it a person? 🤔
Anonymous
05/19/2022 16:02
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Actually completely different. An embryo is not a baby.
Fine. Abortionists like you can say you're pregnant with an embryo. Women i know say they're pregnant with a baby.
Ask your friends who among them have had abortions.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:52
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Actually completely different. An embryo is not a baby.
Fine. Abortionists like you can say you're pregnant with an embryo. Women i know say they're pregnant with a baby.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:44
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/us/oklahoma-ban-abortions.html
The Oklahoma Legislature gave final approval on Thursday to a bill that prohibits nearly all abortions starting at fertilization, which would make it the nation’s strictest abortion law.
The bill is modeled on one that took effect in Texas in September, which has relied on civilian instead of criminal enforcement to work around court challenges. But it goes further than the Texas law, which bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy.
The bill subjects abortion providers and anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion to civil suits from private individuals. It would take effect immediately upon signature by Gov. Kevin Stitt, a Republican who has pledged to make his state the most anti-abortion in the nation.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:40
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Actually completely different. An embryo is not a baby.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:38
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Femiciders is the preferred term.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:37
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
No more a fact than if I claimed that abortionists like you don't care if babies live or die.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 15:27
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am sickened by what is happening to the U.S.
Yes, millions of babies, many from Black and Hispanic families, being aborted.
Millions of living, breathing WOMEN who were safely able to end their pregnancy.
Millions of WOMEN who weren't forced to continue a pregnancy or give birth against their will.
Millions of WOMEN who were able to make medical decisions with their doctors without religious fanatics forcing their beliefs on them.
I'm a woman. MOST women out of the 60+ million who aborted their babies werent forced to have sex, get pregnant, and have medical issues. Many of those women need to think smarter and quit using abortion as a means to get rid of a baby.
Sorry, you don't get to insert yourself into a decision between a woman and her doctor. You don't get to force your will on women's bodies.
There are many laws that we may or may not like. I'm not forcing my will on you.
The people who you vote for are.
Here’s their latest:
Wouldn't this law make IVF almost impossible to do legally (if not ban it outright)? Would a doctor be obligated to transfer an embryo that is found to have genetic defects, for example? What happens if an IVF cycle is unsuccessful? Will the doctor now be subject to some kind of criminal investigation?
Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:58
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Could this ruling also set precedent that would prevent people from having their end-of-life choices made by family members if a state’s voters think people need to be on ventilators long term?
Almost for sure it would. Most likely, this will come up first with respect to keeping a comatose pregnant woman "alive". Actually, hasn't it already?
Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:55
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Do you think this decision would force parents to allow invasive medical care for infants that are born with severe medical problems? I can see that happening. If you forced me to give birth to a child I knew had very little chance, could you force me to make that child suffer through surgeries and other interventions after birth?
This is all so messed up.
I doubt it. It's well-established that forced-birthers don't give a f** about babies after they are born.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:51
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am sickened by what is happening to the U.S.
Yes, millions of babies, many from Black and Hispanic families, being aborted.
Millions of living, breathing WOMEN who were safely able to end their pregnancy.
Millions of WOMEN who weren't forced to continue a pregnancy or give birth against their will.
Millions of WOMEN who were able to make medical decisions with their doctors without religious fanatics forcing their beliefs on them.
I'm a woman. MOST women out of the 60+ million who aborted their babies werent forced to have sex, get pregnant, and have medical issues. Many of those women need to think smarter and quit using abortion as a means to get rid of a baby.
Sorry, you don't get to insert yourself into a decision between a woman and her doctor. You don't get to force your will on women's bodies.
There are many laws that we may or may not like. I'm not forcing my will on you.
The people who you vote for are.
Here’s their latest:
Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:41
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could this ruling also set precedent that would prevent people from having their end-of-life choices made by family members if a state’s voters think people need to be on ventilators long term?
Why not? Alito’s scandalously amoral decision really doesn’t rest on anything but his own hubris and religious beliefs. So it would be made to excuse anything the christofascists want to have happen.
Well I ask because I have Catholic family, and it was brutal to watch a relative struggle with deciding when to call it. Took over a year, just horrible. I could see a state invalidating a person’s medical directives because “suicide”. It’s not really that different from telling a pregnant woman she must carry a child to term, when the fetus has severe health problems that will necessitate life support. And then, forcing the family to keep said child on life support.
This could all happen. Because bodily autonomy is not a thing anymore I guess.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:31
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Could this ruling also set precedent that would prevent people from having their end-of-life choices made by family members if a state’s voters think people need to be on ventilators long term?
Why not? Alito’s scandalously amoral decision really doesn’t rest on anything but his own hubris and religious beliefs. So it would be made to excuse anything the christofascists want to have happen.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:30
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am sickened by what is happening to the U.S.
Yes, millions of babies, many from Black and Hispanic families, being aborted.
Millions of living, breathing WOMEN who were safely able to end their pregnancy.
Millions of WOMEN who weren't forced to continue a pregnancy or give birth against their will.
Millions of WOMEN who were able to make medical decisions with their doctors without religious fanatics forcing their beliefs on them.
I'm a woman. MOST women out of the 60+ million who aborted their babies werent forced to have sex, get pregnant, and have medical issues. Many of those women need to think smarter and quit using abortion as a means to get rid of a baby.
In every case, these women got pregnant when they didn’t want to be. No birth control is 100% effective, or even medically possible for some women. For example me. I cannot take hormonal birth control. Im married with children. I cannot risk pregnancy again, I would be terrified if I became pregnant again. But barring never having sex with my husband again, it could happen. I would choose abortion. Many women find themselves in similar situations. Accidents happen. Abortion need to be available, particularly in the first trimester. This ruling would take that option away. It is unacceptable and dangerous. A women’s reasons are her own business.
60+ million abortions did not occur for the types of circumstances you noted. Too many occur for no other reason than precautions not taken.
Hey, forced birther - the GOP just voted down help to get baby formula. Forced birthers clearly just think of pregnancy and children as punishments.
The persons who think like you are the ones viewing babies as punishment.
Ah, you think the old “I’m rubber, you’re glue” insult will erase decades of forced birthers’ opposition to caring for pregnant women, infants, children and their general disregard for life? Just because you have drunk the Kool Aid doesn’t mean everyone else shares your culty beliefs.
Regardless of any name-calling on your part, people who are opposed to abortion on demand are not viewing children as a punishment.
😂
There’s no name calling. You’re a forced birther as evidenced by the fact that your side is now openly coming for birth control.
More than once I have personally heard forced birthers talking about pregnancy as “the time” for the “crime” of sexual intercourse. You can try to pretend otherwise, but your side absolutely thinks pregnancy and birth are a punishment for what you perceive to be licentious activity. And those are your religious beliefs. And in this country we are supposed to have a separation between church and state but the christofascists don’t understand the entire point of America. Talivangelicals is what they are.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:26
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Could this ruling also set precedent that would prevent people from having their end-of-life choices made by family members if a state’s voters think people need to be on ventilators long term?