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Anonymous wrote:Jen’s presentation of her marriage and the ending doesn’t add up. She makes it sound like there was one horrible unseen thing that ended it all and there was no going back - which always allowed people to fill in the gaps with extreme scenarios. With Brandon’s story - it *was* a slow burn and an accumulation of many things. Many things that sound reasonable (though not okay or excusable…reasonable that all those things caused spiraling and negative effects.) Especially with witnessing his friend’s death and I’m sure the unimaginable guilt of him driving the golf cart when it happened.

Jen comes across as lying and/or really self involved to not notice how bad things were. Which isn’t the same thing as saying she deserved to be cheated on and mistreated in various ways - to be clear.

Also Brandon sounds a bit in denial about his drug and alcohol problem. OnSite always felt a little bit off to me I think because so many Christian celebrities use it. But it’s odd that it was never seen or suggested he go into some sort of drug and alcohol counseling at the least.

It comes across a bit of a classic alcoholic denial of “I’m not an alcoholic I just drink on the weekends!” Okay but what leads to the drinking and how much and what happens and are you in control? Trauma therapy helps with that to a point but it doesn’t address the whole picture, like someone alluded to above.

She actually has said she was in denial that it was more than a rough patch. She admitted that looking back, she could see it was unraveling and there were problems and that her mistake was that she tried to just take the ‘power through this’ approach which didn’t help address the problems. If she thought the lack of intimacy was because he wasn’t attracted to her anymore and he thought it was because they weren’t connected anymore, obviously there was a breakdown of communication as well. She admitted it was both a slow burn and a shocking overnight end to the marriage…which is when he was caught cheating. Actually seems like what he had to say and what she has said mesh pretty well with each other. And sounds like they both acknowledge some failings.

But I also 💯 agree about the concerns with him thinking it’s fine to party after dealing with addiction. If you went down that path and created all that secondary trauma by financially devastating your family and cheating, wouldn’t you try to avoid any chance of those mistakes again? I know zero of my sober friends that would think it’s cool for him to separate out the trauma and substance abuse. I’m fact, most of my sober friends developed their addictions after trauma. Healing the trauma doesn’t negate the need to be sober. I feel for the trauma, understandable to spiral after that. But what happens when the next hard thing happens? Does he think his new marriage is going to be all sunshine and rainbows (spoiler alert, I have a great marriage but it’s still hard as heck sometimes!) what happens when he and Tina have a rough patch? He’s going to be drinking and find a connection somewhere else again? That’s why you get 100% sober so you don’t do it again…

I hear a lot of info to be sympathetic to (nothing I didn’t already know though), some glossing over some details that would paint him in a worse light (who he cheated with, how bad the financial mistakes really were), and also some very subtle excuse making while saying he owns his mistakes. He’s a good salesman, he’s legit been thru a lot, and he put some people who cared about him thru hell. It can all be true at the same time. Just like Jen could be frickin annoying with her shilling post-Brandon career, but also have been legit pretty badly devastated both emotionally and financially by his actions. It’s weird people think it’s an either-or. Nothing either person has said really invalidates the other persons experience…

Anonymous wrote:Jen’s presentation of her marriage and the ending doesn’t add up. She makes it sound like there was one horrible unseen thing that ended it all and there was no going back - which always allowed people to fill in the gaps with extreme scenarios. With Brandon’s story - it *was* a slow burn and an accumulation of many things. Many things that sound reasonable (though not okay or excusable…reasonable that all those things caused spiraling and negative effects.) Especially with witnessing his friend’s death and I’m sure the unimaginable guilt of him driving the golf cart when it happened.

Jen comes across as lying and/or really self involved to not notice how bad things were. Which isn’t the same thing as saying she deserved to be cheated on and mistreated in various ways - to be clear.

Also Brandon sounds a bit in denial about his drug and alcohol problem. OnSite always felt a little bit off to me I think because so many Christian celebrities use it. But it’s odd that it was never seen or suggested he go into some sort of drug and alcohol counseling at the least.

It comes across a bit of a classic alcoholic denial of “I’m not an alcoholic I just drink on the weekends!” Okay but what leads to the drinking and how much and what happens and are you in control? Trauma therapy helps with that to a point but it doesn’t address the whole picture, like someone alluded to above.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s almost no way he spills any beans. He’ll reinforce the tale that he met Tina after the divorce (unlikely) and he’ll talk about his new job. He’s a salesman now, so anything he puts out there will be polished and protected. No one wants to buy a million dollar ranchette from someone who has a questionable not-too-distant past. He has got to come across as steady, dependable, and trustworthy. I don’t think he was any of these things in his marriage, so I’m not counting on anything other than a sales pitch. I won’t be listening, but I’ll be lurking here for a recap 😂

I hope you listen to the podcast because your snark is evident. What I get from the podcast is that B is human, and they went 3 years without intimacy in their marriage. I am not sure what marriage could actually survive that. He didn't justify any negative behavior, he can't change the past. As with many things Jen has written about, she exaggerates and directs blame anywhere but herself. Brings me to this question, if you hadn't been intimate in such a long time, why would either spouse be surprised that their marriage ended?

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. EVERY SINGLE WORD. I AGREE.
THREE YEARS AND YOU ARE SHOCKED YOUR HUSBAND WENT ON THE PROWL? I AM A MAN, NOT MARRIED BUT IF I WERE AND MY WIFE AND I HAD NOT BEEN INTIMATE FOR 3 YEARS IM NOT MAD AT HER OR MYSELF FOR ANY MISHAPS. COME ON, THAT IS JUST OBSURD.

He didn't say there wasn't physical intimacy in his marriage. He felt disconnected from his marriage, but it sounded very much like while he and Jen were still tackling problems together, they didn't handle the stress the same way. I think he held a lot back from her, so to her she was blindsided. To him, it was a slow downward spiral for three years, but he didn't even recognize that until he was in rehab, trying to figure out how he got there.

Two truths to the same story.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s almost no way he spills any beans. He’ll reinforce the tale that he met Tina after the divorce (unlikely) and he’ll talk about his new job. He’s a salesman now, so anything he puts out there will be polished and protected. No one wants to buy a million dollar ranchette from someone who has a questionable not-too-distant past. He has got to come across as steady, dependable, and trustworthy. I don’t think he was any of these things in his marriage, so I’m not counting on anything other than a sales pitch. I won’t be listening, but I’ll be lurking here for a recap 😂

I hope you listen to the podcast because your snark is evident. What I get from the podcast is that B is human, and they went 3 years without intimacy in their marriage. I am not sure what marriage could actually survive that. He didn't justify any negative behavior, he can't change the past. As with many things Jen has written about, she exaggerates and directs blame anywhere but herself. Brings me to this question, if you hadn't been intimate in such a long time, why would either spouse be surprised that their marriage ended?

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. EVERY SINGLE WORD. I AGREE.
THREE YEARS AND YOU ARE SHOCKED YOUR HUSBAND WENT ON THE PROWL? I AM A MAN, NOT MARRIED BUT IF I WERE AND MY WIFE AND I HAD NOT BEEN INTIMATE FOR 3 YEARS IM NOT MAD AT HER OR MYSELF FOR ANY MISHAPS. COME ON, THAT IS JUST OBSURD.

Anonymous wrote:Jen’s presentation of her marriage and the ending doesn’t add up. She makes it sound like there was one horrible unseen thing that ended it all and there was no going back - which always allowed people to fill in the gaps with extreme scenarios. With Brandon’s story - it *was* a slow burn and an accumulation of many things. Many things that sound reasonable (though not okay or excusable…reasonable that all those things caused spiraling and negative effects.) Especially with witnessing his friend’s death and I’m sure the unimaginable guilt of him driving the golf cart when it happened.

Jen comes across as lying and/or really self involved to not notice how bad things were. Which isn’t the same thing as saying she deserved to be cheated on and mistreated in various ways - to be clear.

Also Brandon sounds a bit in denial about his drug and alcohol problem. OnSite always felt a little bit off to me I think because so many Christian celebrities use it. But it’s odd that it was never seen or suggested he go into some sort of drug and alcohol counseling at the least.

It comes across a bit of a classic alcoholic denial of “I’m not an alcoholic I just drink on the weekends!” Okay but what leads to the drinking and how much and what happens and are you in control? Trauma therapy helps with that to a point but it doesn’t address the whole picture, like someone alluded to above.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s almost no way he spills any beans. He’ll reinforce the tale that he met Tina after the divorce (unlikely) and he’ll talk about his new job. He’s a salesman now, so anything he puts out there will be polished and protected. No one wants to buy a million dollar ranchette from someone who has a questionable not-too-distant past. He has got to come across as steady, dependable, and trustworthy. I don’t think he was any of these things in his marriage, so I’m not counting on anything other than a sales pitch. I won’t be listening, but I’ll be lurking here for a recap 😂

I hope you listen to the podcast because your snark is evident. What I get from the podcast is that B is human, and they went 3 years without intimacy in their marriage. I am not sure what marriage could actually survive that. He didn't justify any negative behavior, he can't change the past. As with many things Jen has written about, she exaggerates and directs blame anywhere but herself. Brings me to this question, if you hadn't been intimate in such a long time, why would either spouse be surprised that their marriage ended?

Anonymous wrote:Brandon is a lot more sympathetic after his telling of his story, in all honesty, not excusing his admitted bad actions and infidelity, of course.

The horror of what he saw happen to his friend and the trauma of that compounded with the trauma of his childhood would put any person into a deep spiral of depression and anguish.

His marriage, sadly, just wasn't able to deal with this.

Interesting that his infidelity that was eventually discovered was a "one time deal" and wasn't his current fiancé. That what is sounded like.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s almost no way he spills any beans. He’ll reinforce the tale that he met Tina after the divorce (unlikely) and he’ll talk about his new job. He’s a salesman now, so anything he puts out there will be polished and protected. No one wants to buy a million dollar ranchette from someone who has a questionable not-too-distant past. He has got to come across as steady, dependable, and trustworthy. I don’t think he was any of these things in his marriage, so I’m not counting on anything other than a sales pitch. I won’t be listening, but I’ll be lurking here for a recap 😂