Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 08:28     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc


My son, 16, just watched this over my shoulder and asked: "And on that basis he was elected President?"

Hmmm...


16 year olds are pretty smart and their opinions should be regarded higher than everyone else's.


US did it with Trump who gained celebrity from his the Apprentice etc. his being elected to high office was an unmitigated disaster.

I was skeptical about Zelensky before but am pleasantly surprised at what a master communicator and brilliant war time leader Zelenskyy has been though …
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 04:34     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

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Anonymous wrote:The Azov Battalion is real. Doesn’t mean Putin isn’t a crazy dictator, but it isn’t true that Ukraine has no neo Nazis.

Russia has them too.


Armed battalions with names and all?


Putin has private Nazi-run death squads. Look up Wagner PMC. It's led by Putin's friend Dmitri Utkin, a former Spetznaz officer and known neo-Nazi. Check out Utkin's tattoos - Nazi Reichsadler and SS insignia. He named his company "Wagner" after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner is Russia's dirty work and private "plausible deniability" military operating in Syria, Central African Republic, Mali and many other hot spots. Wagner currently has hundreds of assassins in Ukraine trying to assassinate the Jewish president of Ukraine, who is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and who was popularly elected by the supposedly Nazi Ukrainians with solid 73% majority.




Zelensky is a grandson of a communist, a Red Army colonel.

Does that make his grandfather not Jewish? Does it change the fact that his grandfather’s father and brothers perished in the Holocaust? What’s your point?

Um, are Zelensky and George Soros aquatinted? Just wondering…
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2022 00:45     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc


My son, 16, just watched this over my shoulder and asked: "And on that basis he was elected President?"

Hmmm...


16 year olds are pretty smart and their opinions should be regarded higher than everyone else's.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 23:17     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Azov Battalion is real. Doesn’t mean Putin isn’t a crazy dictator, but it isn’t true that Ukraine has no neo Nazis.

Russia has them too.


Armed battalions with names and all?


Putin has private Nazi-run death squads. Look up Wagner PMC. It's led by Putin's friend Dmitri Utkin, a former Spetznaz officer and known neo-Nazi. Check out Utkin's tattoos - Nazi Reichsadler and SS insignia. He named his company "Wagner" after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner is Russia's dirty work and private "plausible deniability" military operating in Syria, Central African Republic, Mali and many other hot spots. Wagner currently has hundreds of assassins in Ukraine trying to assassinate the Jewish president of Ukraine, who is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and who was popularly elected by the supposedly Nazi Ukrainians with solid 73% majority.





Zelensky is a grandson of a communist, a Red Army colonel.

Does that make his grandfather not Jewish? Does it change the fact that his grandfather’s father and brothers perished in the Holocaust? What’s your point?

Communists tend to be pointedly unreligious, which is exactly why many Jews fled from communist countries. Religion was forbidden in the USSR. The October Revolution predated WWII.


Well that and the mass killings of Jews, among others. But yeah.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 23:15     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Azov Battalion is real. Doesn’t mean Putin isn’t a crazy dictator, but it isn’t true that Ukraine has no neo Nazis.

Russia has them too.


Armed battalions with names and all?


Putin has private Nazi-run death squads. Look up Wagner PMC. It's led by Putin's friend Dmitri Utkin, a former Spetznaz officer and known neo-Nazi. Check out Utkin's tattoos - Nazi Reichsadler and SS insignia. He named his company "Wagner" after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner is Russia's dirty work and private "plausible deniability" military operating in Syria, Central African Republic, Mali and many other hot spots. Wagner currently has hundreds of assassins in Ukraine trying to assassinate the Jewish president of Ukraine, who is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and who was popularly elected by the supposedly Nazi Ukrainians with solid 73% majority.




Zelensky is a grandson of a communist, a Red Army colonel.

Does that make his grandfather not Jewish? Does it change the fact that his grandfather’s father and brothers perished in the Holocaust? What’s your point?

Communists tend to be pointedly unreligious, which is exactly why many Jews fled from communist countries. Religion was forbidden in the USSR. The October Revolution predated WWII.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 23:10     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc


My son, 16, just watched this over my shoulder and asked: "And on that basis he was elected President?"

Hmmm...

You voted for a reality show clown in 2016. What are you hmmmm….ing about now?
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 23:08     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Azov Battalion is real. Doesn’t mean Putin isn’t a crazy dictator, but it isn’t true that Ukraine has no neo Nazis.

Russia has them too.


Armed battalions with names and all?


Putin has private Nazi-run death squads. Look up Wagner PMC. It's led by Putin's friend Dmitri Utkin, a former Spetznaz officer and known neo-Nazi. Check out Utkin's tattoos - Nazi Reichsadler and SS insignia. He named his company "Wagner" after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner is Russia's dirty work and private "plausible deniability" military operating in Syria, Central African Republic, Mali and many other hot spots. Wagner currently has hundreds of assassins in Ukraine trying to assassinate the Jewish president of Ukraine, who is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and who was popularly elected by the supposedly Nazi Ukrainians with solid 73% majority.




Zelensky is a grandson of a communist, a Red Army colonel.

Does that make his grandfather not Jewish? Does it change the fact that his grandfather’s father and brothers perished in the Holocaust? What’s your point?
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:51     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc


My son, 16, just watched this over my shoulder and asked: "And on that basis he was elected President?"

Hmmm...

No, on that basis he became ultra popular. He also had a movie role of a character who ended up as a president by mistake. Right after that he declared candidacy in the real election and won. People love him and voted for a big tv star. Not like we've never seen that happen here in the US.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:45     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc


My son, 16, just watched this over my shoulder and asked: "And on that basis he was elected President?"

Hmmm...
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:34     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

And before he became a president, he was a great comedian, like Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. This is one of his most famous videos (yes, it's not very polite, but it's very funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:21     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Azov Battalion is real. Doesn’t mean Putin isn’t a crazy dictator, but it isn’t true that Ukraine has no neo Nazis.

Russia has them too.


Armed battalions with names and all?


Putin has private Nazi-run death squads. Look up Wagner PMC. It's led by Putin's friend Dmitri Utkin, a former Spetznaz officer and known neo-Nazi. Check out Utkin's tattoos - Nazi Reichsadler and SS insignia. He named his company "Wagner" after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner is Russia's dirty work and private "plausible deniability" military operating in Syria, Central African Republic, Mali and many other hot spots. Wagner currently has hundreds of assassins in Ukraine trying to assassinate the Jewish president of Ukraine, who is the grandson of Holocaust survivors and who was popularly elected by the supposedly Nazi Ukrainians with solid 73% majority.




Zelensky is a grandson of a communist, a Red Army colonel.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:20     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Let's not play the Who Has More Nazis game, OK?




What game would you rather we play?

Facts are facts both Russia and Ukraine have a government and military heavily infested with white supremacists and neo Nazi. It's a a problem that's been on the rise across Europe and has been widely reported.
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I have no information on neo-Nazis in Russia, but in Ukraine, they do not "heavily infest". I will report you so that Jeff keeps an eye on your trolling, because at this point you're just spamming the thread.

Let it go. You've not convincing anyone on here that Ukraine is Nazi.



I’m not PP, but Ukraine and Russia both have a neo-Nazi problem.

Read about Azov Battalion: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment

Read about neo-Nazis in Ukraine in general: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

This does not make anything Putin is doing legitimate.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:17     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Let's not play the Who Has More Nazis game, OK?




What game would you rather we play?

Facts are facts both Russia and Ukraine have a government and military heavily infested with white supremacists and neo Nazi. It's a a problem that's been on the rise across Europe and has been widely reported.
I


I have no information on neo-Nazis in Russia, but in Ukraine, they do not "heavily infest". I will report you so that Jeff keeps an eye on your trolling, because at this point you're just spamming the thread.

Let it go. You've not convincing anyone on here that Ukraine is Nazi.

Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:13     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Let's not play the Who Has More Nazis game, OK?




What game would you rather we play?

Facts are facts both Russia and Ukraine have a government and military heavily infested with white supremacists and neo Nazi. It's a a problem that's been on the rise across Europe and has been widely reported.
I


Actually the Ukraine’s do not. The republicans do.


Huh?
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2022 22:12     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Let's not play the Who Has More Nazis game, OK?




What game would you rather we play?

Facts are facts both Russia and Ukraine have a government and military heavily infested with white supremacists and neo Nazi. It's a a problem that's been on the rise across Europe and has been widely reported.
I


Actually the Ukraine’s do not. The republicans do.