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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

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That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

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And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

ok well then why did FCPS take over 2 months to publicly announce they bought the school?

and then after that say we need to decide if we want to make it a magnet or a traditional school? shouldn’t they have had a plan while buying it? especially if this western HS has been in the CIP for years

There are at least 2 other active threads going on about that purchase.

This thread is about BRAC and rezoning maps.

Take your discussion about the permitting process and the new high school to one of those other threads.

But then the same handful of people couldn’t cross post on the same issue endlessly over 2 or more threads. Maybe they could talk about this in the SOL thread and the thread about teachers unions too! Let’s make every thread about the western high school! So fun!

There were days on end where this thread was about nothing other than the West Springfield boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

ok well then why did FCPS take over 2 months to publicly announce they bought the school?

and then after that say we need to decide if we want to make it a magnet or a traditional school? shouldn’t they have had a plan while buying it? especially if this western HS has been in the CIP for years

There are at least 2 other active threads going on about that purchase.

This thread is about BRAC and rezoning maps.

Take your discussion about the permitting process and the new high school to one of those other threads.

But then the same handful of people couldn’t cross post on the same issue endlessly over 2 or more threads. Maybe they could talk about this in the SOL thread and the thread about teachers unions too! Let’s make every thread about the western high school! So fun!

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

How much empathy did you have when the 2016 CIP had it scheduled to be built (for $120 million) in the FY21-25 time frame before the county gave the land to the Saudis? It was deferred for years until the land unexpectedly came available again, and now it's just one year behind the original schedule. Seems about right to me.

Of course, you ignore the money that was invested in additions to schools like Herndon, Oakton, and Madison since 2016. That money was available because a new western HS wasn’t being built, but now you are happy to have your cake and eat it, too, while schools elsewhere in the county are overlooked.

If there was any compelling need for a new HS, they would prioritize the boundaries for the school and we wouldn’t be hearing about how attendance at Western will be optional for years to come. It’s just an expensive toy the dimwits running FCPS decided they just had to have.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

+1. They keep shouting that they are owed this school, but it comes at a cost of deferring many other projects.

Read the post above. A new HS was deferred for quite a while. But I guess you are special and your needs should always be met on your timeline?

Our kids’ schools aren’t in the hopper for a renovation, I just find it distasteful that you believe you are owed this school at the expense of others. Just calling balls and strikes here, and your frequent claims that because you were mentioned in passing in the CIP years ago then you get to cut to the front of the line is disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

ok well then why did FCPS take over 2 months to publicly announce they bought the school?

and then after that say we need to decide if we want to make it a magnet or a traditional school? shouldn’t they have had a plan while buying it? especially if this western HS has been in the CIP for years

+1

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

I’m the PPP. Exactly where did I use the term “virtue signaling”? Do you generally just throw nonsense around to see what will stick? I’ve said repeatedly that I’m happy for this area to get a new school. You seem utterly obtuse if you can’t separate that from wanting the whole process to be more transparent.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

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And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

I’m also not part of any area that will be affected by new boundaries or the new school and I’m ALSO happy for this area to get a much-needed school. That doesn’t negate the fact that FCPS should absolutely have been more transparent about how it was purchased and where the funds came from.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

+1. They keep shouting that they are owed this school, but it comes at a cost of deferring many other projects.

Read the post above. A new HS was deferred for quite a while. But I guess you are special and your needs should always be met on your timeline?

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

+1. They keep shouting that they are owed this school, but it comes at a cost of deferring many other projects.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

How much empathy did you have when the 2016 CIP had it scheduled to be built (for $120 million) in the FY21-25 time frame before the county gave the land to the Saudis? It was deferred for years until the land unexpectedly came available again, and now it's just one year behind the original schedule. Seems about right to me.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

DP. When you've stopped patting yourself on the back, let us know if you have the same empathy for those whose school renovations will be deferred for years because FCPS will now be allocating so much of its capital budget to a western HS that the last CIP didn't contemplate building any earlier than 2034.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

ok well then why did FCPS take over 2 months to publicly announce they bought the school?

and then after that say we need to decide if we want to make it a magnet or a traditional school? shouldn’t they have had a plan while buying it? especially if this western HS has been in the CIP for years

There are at least 2 other active threads going on about that purchase.

This thread is about BRAC and rezoning maps.

Take your discussion about the permitting process and the new high school to one of those other threads.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

ok well then why did FCPS take over 2 months to publicly announce they bought the school?

and then after that say we need to decide if we want to make it a magnet or a traditional school? shouldn’t they have had a plan while buying it? especially if this western HS has been in the CIP for years

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

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And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."

PP can’t fathom that not everyone is as selfish as they are. People like PP also love to use the term virtue signaling because they can’t understand that there are people out there who can see past their own nose.

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Anonymous wrote:That 27-28 change will also include removing AAP Centers at the middle school level and instead having AAP at all middle schools. Someone finally realized all these projects need to be combined into one comprehensive effort.

I think they are going ahead with it.

Looks like they are bowing to Great Falls on Western school. Very sad.

With the cancellation of next week’s programming vote, you might be right

What is going on with GF and the new HS?

There have long been people in Great Falls who've tried to throw roadblocks in the way of a new, traditional HS in western Fairfax, but it's unlikely that has much to do with the recent delays in moving forward with a decision about the programming for the western HS or the boundaries for the new school. They've got to work through permitting and construction issues before a new public HS could open, even with only 9th and 10th graders, and the biggest complainers about the potential boundaries for the new school have been people now at Oakton, not people in GF.

They could open as is with 9 and 10. The school was built to hold that many kids and they can certainly adapt. Just look what they do at the overcrowded schools.

Great Falls thinks these kids are insurance for them. That has been clear ever since the purchase.

i think the problem with opening is they didn’t file the right permitting (2232?). besides a few vocal great falls residents on next door the rest of the town does not have an opinion either way on the western high school. it does not affect us.

+1. So sad that there is one poster here who posts negative posts about great falls at least a dozen times a day, even when it is not relevant.

I think she dated someone from Great falls and got dumped.

No other group actively organized against this school. But, you know that.

You mean that non-great falls group that wanted it to be a magnet? That’s literally the only one I know that organized anything. Others just questioned the lack of plan and cost.

But you know that.

And, you know who was the base of FairFacts. They wanted to stop the school. Period. A magnet is not the same as a school with boundaries.

But, hopefully, this is not over.

I don’t understand what you mean by “base of fairfacts”? I haven’t seen any position from fairfacts matters on the school, but I may have missed it.

fair facts matters has not spoken out against the school. the only posts i have seen have asked for transparency on the purchase (what is the plan for the school, what other capital projects are being deferred etc). fcps still doesn’t seem to know the plan months after they purchased it

THIS ^^

That is speaking out against the school. And, some of the people who screamed the most on Nextdoor were very much on FairFacts. One lives two miles from Herndon High School.

asking for transparency is talking against the school? i don’t think so. any logical person no matter where the school was purchased would ask questions if FCPS didn’t even announce the purchase for over 2 months after it closed. and now a month after that they still have no idea on programming, boundaries etc. No one is saying the school isn’t needed in that area. But it seemed very impulsive and they didn’t even do the right permitting to get it open for 2026-2027.

+1
And can you imagine the outcry from people like the PP had a transaction like this occurred in, say, the Langley/McLean area?? We'd never hear the end of it.

If they’d followed any FCPS processes, there’d be data centers built there before FCPS ever held a board meeting to consider a purchase.

This.

Anyone who has ever purchased a house knows that you do not advertise what you are offering to other people searching for houses--or even which house you are going to make an offer.

Possibly. As long as you acknowledge the outcry that would absolutely be happening had this school purchase taken place in a different area of the county.

We don't all think like you. Some of us (myself included) aren't zoned for the new school or one of its donor feeders and are still happy FCPS is doing something about the overcrowding. All the surrounding counties have built new schools in the past 20 years, but we just kept expanding ours into giant monstrosities with strange borders that had lost all sense of a "community school."