Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:15
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
It’s a juvenile take.
Please explain your use of the word "juvenile" to describe this situation. I have kids in schools. I want them IN school, and I don't want them fed CRT garbage. How is that "juvenile," in your esteemed estimation?
You essentially said well Sally who lives one town over kids are in school, but my kids can’t be in school. Foot stamp. Not noticing that maybe it was not in the kids best interest to be there at all last year. It’s an adult temper tantrum. We have elementary students as well.
And the CRT issue is not a real thing. Teach accurate history and critical thinking skills. Give our children an opportunity to form their own opinions. It’s long past time to include the full story.
Except it was in the kids best interest to be in school last year.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:14
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:According to CNN, McAuliffe hasn’t called Youngkin to concede.
This seems increasingly par for the course for the past 20 years. Expected.
He’s always been a hateful, hyper-partisan jerk.
I meant this is becoming par for BOTH parties.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:12
Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.
You still don't get it, do you?
Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.
There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.
There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress
DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.
I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.
Yeah, I keep seeing news stories about how things are so bad that Afghan families are selling their young daughters. Not a good look. Also let me know if there's a place I can donate that's helping these families so they don't have to do that.
DP.. majority of Americans wanted the US to pullout. I'm not sure what you thought would happen
I’m a DP. We didn’t want to pull out like this!! Biden manufactured a complete CF in Afghanistan that erased years of progress with his horribly myopic decisions. And yes, Biden said we will defend Taiwan, BUT PSAKI HAD TO WALK THAT BACK BECAUSE HE WAS TALKING OUT HIS ASS AND CONTRADICTED US POLICY ACCORDING TO THE TAIWAN RELATIONS ACT. His entire foreign policy is in shambles, leaving us vulnerable to an attack (anyone go to a mall in Fairfax County over the weekend?). And let’s not forget our southern border (Does it bother anyone that Biden is now telling people not to
come here?). Oh, and our shipping back-ups. And gas prices. And inflation. And that he wants to pay people who were separated from families at the border $450k. And police are leaving the force because, guess what? They don’t want to be defunded and devalued.
The exit was always going to look like this. The Taliban prisoners had been released before the inauguration and they were steadily advancing against a corrupt and incompetent government. We could have surged back in and tried to prop them up, but no one would have supported that so we left. There was no way that there would have ever been enough seats on the flights or that whatever airport we chose to exit from wasn't going to be mobbed by desperate people. It's still not an accomplishment that Biden can run on. Just imagine that this withdawrl was dragged out long enough to get out everyone who wanted out- do you think Americans would welcome a million Afghan refugees? a half million?
Yes, it was an ugly situation on inauguration day and there was no easy solution here.
And it's completely irrational to tie this to a gubernatorial election. Neither Youngkin nor McAuliffe will affect national foreign policy.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:10
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
It’s a juvenile take.
You're in denial. Still.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:08
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
Which states? Some of my friends' kids didn't go back until AFTER our kids went back.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:06
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.
No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.
Critical Race Theory! So scary!
Cut me a break.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:05
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Youngkin's lead in the polls increased again.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/virginia/
Yep
I don't get the obsession over the polls. It's not just this election.
Is it like a peer pressure thing? Like, you can't just vote for the candidate you think has the best policies and would help our state/country the most and feel confidant about it. You need to know that other people are also voting for her/him?
Are you that insecure with your decision?
Bet you wished you'd listened to those polls now huh?
DP. But why would some random person want to "listen" to the polls? What would that even mean? I vote for the people who will, in my opinion, do the best job as an elected official. Polls don't change that and I'm not changing who I vote for based on what other people want (nor do I expect them to change who they vote for based on what I believe). Sometimes my candidate wins, sometimes they lose, but I always feel good about my choices.
Exactly. I make my own decisions based on information I've gathered and reason.
I don't vote based on how my neighbor votes.
Is that why you voted for Youngkin? Because you saw other people doing that?
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:05
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
It’s a juvenile take.
Please explain your use of the word "juvenile" to describe this situation. I have kids in schools. I want them IN school, and I don't want them fed CRT garbage. How is that "juvenile," in your esteemed estimation?
You essentially said well Sally who lives one town over kids are in school, but my kids can’t be in school. Foot stamp. Not noticing that maybe it was not in the kids best interest to be there at all last year. It’s an adult temper tantrum. We have elementary students as well.
And the CRT issue is not a real thing. Teach accurate history and critical thinking skills. Give our children an opportunity to form their own opinions. It’s long past time to include the full story.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:03
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fairfax:
Biden 70%, Trump 28%
McAuliffe 64%, Youngkin 34%
Arlington:
Biden 81%, Trump 17%
McAuliffe 76%, Youngkin 22%
Loudoun:
Biden 61%, Trump 36%
McAuliffe 54%, Youngkin 44%
Prince William:
Biden 62%, Trump 35%
McAuliffe 58%, Youngkin 41%
Youngkin was able to pick off a few suburban voters who were scared of the Democrats on education.
This exactly, particularly out in Loudoun. Youngkin had tables out and a very organized presence at pretty much every family-oriented Loudoun event, staffed by families, and they were pushing the education line.
This election very much reminds me of the 2016 general election in terms of presence. Not that Trump won in Virginia but you simply don't feel the campaigning effort by McAullife. Not that either had a positive policy message, but at Youngkin's message was a tangible issue while McAullife's message was all about Trump. Thing is, the only group is bringing up Trump are the Dems and the Lincoln Project grifters while Youngkin (who is clearly a corporatist moderate R RINO) constantly tries to weasel his way out of ties with Trump since the primaries.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:02
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
It’s a juvenile take.
It’s not just the closures though. It’s also the fact that when we finally got back to school, the focus should have been one two and three on learning loss and getting kids back up to speed. Instead it was … TJ admissions, renaming schools, and dumb trans stuff that affects like 12 kids in the county. Distraction issues. Now is a Republican Governor going to get the local SB’s in shape and doing their real jobs? No. But a D Governor is just going to enable the behavior even more.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:01
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fairfax:
Biden 70%, Trump 28%
McAuliffe 64%, Youngkin 34%
Arlington:
Biden 81%, Trump 17%
McAuliffe 76%, Youngkin 22%
Loudoun:
Biden 61%, Trump 36%
McAuliffe 54%, Youngkin 44%
Prince William:
Biden 62%, Trump 35%
McAuliffe 58%, Youngkin 41%
Youngkin was able to pick off a few suburban voters who were scared of the Democrats on education.
This exactly, particularly out in Loudoun. Youngkin had tables out and a very organized presence at pretty much every family-oriented Loudoun event, staffed by families, and they were pushing the education line.
They had quite the presence at the P-ville townwide tag sale event a few weeks ago. Way bigger presence than the Democrats.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 11:00
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
I believe Youngkin was running around 3-5 percentage points ahead of Biden 2020 in most of NoVa. All it takes is a few percentage points in a close race. People are pissed about the school issues.
And it’s misplaced. The issue was National response to a pandemic, and the virus itself. But let’s blame the schools.
It's easy to blame the schools when friends and relatives in other states (including deep blue ones) have kids in school
It’s a juvenile take.
Please explain your use of the word "juvenile" to describe this situation. I have kids in schools. I want them IN school, and I don't want them fed CRT garbage. How is that "juvenile," in your esteemed estimation?
Anonymous
11/03/2021 10:59
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Fairfax:
Biden 70%, Trump 28%
McAuliffe 64%, Youngkin 34%
Arlington:
Biden 81%, Trump 17%
McAuliffe 76%, Youngkin 22%
Loudoun:
Biden 61%, Trump 36%
McAuliffe 54%, Youngkin 44%
Prince William:
Biden 62%, Trump 35%
McAuliffe 58%, Youngkin 41%
Youngkin was able to pick off a few suburban voters who were scared of the Democrats on education.
This exactly, particularly out in Loudoun. Youngkin had tables out and a very organized presence at pretty much every family-oriented Loudoun event, staffed by families, and they were pushing the education line.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 10:59
Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Trump is taking credit for Youngkin’s victory: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-took-credit-glenn-youngkin-virginia-win-thanked-maga-voters-2021-11
Blech. He had nothing to do with it. This was Dems eating their own pure and simple.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 10:59
Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?
Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.
Biden won Fairfax 70% vs 28% to Trump. McAuliffe won Fairfax 65-35%.
That'll do it.
